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Larni

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Message 56 of 108 (341866)
08-21-2006 7:56 AM

Reply to: Message 19 by Hyroglyphx
08-19-2006 10:34 PM

Re: Why not?

NJ writes:

The one's I've encountered were doing that verbal jousting, trying to outwit the other person as if it were some kind of game.

This tends to be more true with the Middle Classes. This group is pretty proud of their intellectualism and do seek to undermine their friends sometimes in coversation.

I guess some of us do see it as a game; it's fun to see the look on your pals' face when he commits a gaff.

The more 'salt of the earth' character has no need for such subterfuge and will either make you laugh with an anecdote (the South) or puch your face and steal your car (the North)

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Larni

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Message 58 of 108 (341869)
08-21-2006 8:10 AM

Reply to: Message 31 by Hyroglyphx
08-20-2006 11:33 AM

Re: Why not?

NJ writes:

Asking somebody what brand of toothpaste they use could probably be construed as none of anyone else's buisness either, but I wouldn't imagine it being a source of embarrassment.

Anyone asking that kind of question in my circle of friends would watch the person they were talking to slide away (as CK did above).

The thing is, you ask yourself, "what on earth did he/she say that for?" and look for that slightly glazed look in their eyes. Replace tooth paste with belief in a god and it becomes inapproriate in a social setting. It's just not done.

At my house warming I discovered that two of my girlfriends' friends where xians. Even when I brought the subject up (I was a little drunk and spoiling for a fight) they declined to enter into a discussion.

Private and personal you see.

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Message 59 of 108 (341872)
08-21-2006 8:20 AM

Reply to: Message 45 by MangyTiger
08-20-2006 9:23 PM

Re: Why not?

MangyTiger writes:

Given that for a century or two being the 'wrong' faith could get you executed you can understand why a reluctance to talk about it could develop.

Good point. But my friend who lives in Ireland sometimes gets asked if he is a 'Proddy'.

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Message 61 of 108 (341874)
08-21-2006 8:24 AM

Reply to: Message 57 by CK
08-21-2006 8:08 AM

Re: Why not?

CK writes:

of course! it's wonderful fun - I'd argue over anything - even subjects I have no interest in at all.

LOL. Stare them right in the face and confidently claim the most outrageous falsehood that just might be true.

Priceless fun.

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Message 76 of 108 (342268)
08-22-2006 5:53 AM

Reply to: Message 75 by Dr Jack
08-22-2006 4:49 AM

Not quite sure what you mean there Mr Jack, but if you mean being actively anti religious I kind of agree. My freinds roll their eyes and slink away (CK stylee) when I get on my high horse.

Seems to me over here we agree that religion is one of those subjects that are not important enough to make points about because it can create a bad atmos at the party.

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Message 82 of 108 (342366)
08-22-2006 11:44 AM

Reply to: Message 77 by Dr Jack
08-22-2006 7:34 AM

Yeah well, you only have to look at the way god botherers are depicted on TV and the public conception of people like JWs banging on ones' door trying to palm off copies of Watch Tower to see where these notions get reinforced.

Think of Dott Cotton off of Eastenders.