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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days)  Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
mitchellmckain writes: An atheist playing games. Ding ding ding ding! You win the prize! That's the first time I've actually been called an "atheist" at EvC. 
To think that you are feeling the same things that theists feel but that these are not due to an external entity is a denial of the experience of the theist. Nonsense. It is the theist who is denying my experience. I grew up in an utterly theist environment and I am telling you that I have the same feelings as every theist I have ever met.I am just saying that I'm not convinced that those feelings were injected into me. ... he repudiates the idea that any experience of God could have any basis in fact. Pay attention: I am saying that the "experience" does have a basis in fact - but there is a possible disconnect between that fact and "God". Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
mitchellmcKain writes: I never heard of anybody claiming to share what an atheist experiences and then claim that this is not the result of the fact that God does not exist. Too many "nots" in that sentence. As a physicist, I hope you're more precise with numbers. I'm telling you: I have had the same "experiences" as every theist I know and I have reservations about attributing them to "God".
Thus you call my experiences delusions.... Of course I never said any such thing.
But it does seem strange to me if you are claiming a experience of the non-existence of God. I don't know where you're getting that. I never said anything about "experiencing non-existence" - whatever the @#$% that means. I'll type slower this time: I claim the same experiences as all the theists I know. Call it a "possession" by some celestial spook, if you like. I don't.
The experiences in question are experiences of God, to deny the connection to God is to deny that they are experiences of God. Exactly. I deny that the experiences are necessarily experiences of God. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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