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Author Topic:   Re-activation of the human thermoregulating functions
arno
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Message 1 of 14 (342267)
08-22-2006 5:50 AM


It's pretty normal that people are always looking for the most comfortable place to stay. You can use clothing, conditioned buildings of food to reach this "comfortzone". I think this search for comfort resulted in a big loss of thermoregulating-funcions of the human-body. I'm not a real scientist, but we made a pretty big collection of thermographic images about this topic (Nutscode.com is for sale | HugeDomains). My first conclusion is that most animals are thermographicly very "goodlooking", they know how to keep there bodytemperature at a stable level. Most humans are pretty ugly when you look at them through an infrared camera. If you put a human outside in his underwear, the thermographic image would probably look something like the thermographic image of a shaven rabbit.
I didn't search the entire forum about this topic, but I would like to discuss some creative options to re-activate these skills again. Taking cold showers, thermo-neutral fashion, things like that.

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arno
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Message 3 of 14 (342273)
08-22-2006 6:22 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminFaith
08-22-2006 5:54 AM


thermoregulating skills
Dear Administrators of evc-forum,
I can understand the first impression of nutscode beng spam, it's an open source-project, the nutscode itself (total amount of your energybills) is not protected and could be some kind of energy-related zipcode. As far as the thermographics go, I wish we would sell them a lot offcourse, but in fact we often give them away to low-budget educational organizations like zoo's, school-websites and science-centers. It's to interesting though not to continue even it might be commercially waste of time.
The relation between thermoregulation, energy-saving and health isseus is gigantic strong. Almost every product has something to do with this.
A a sulution you could leave the main topic (loss of thermoregulating skills of humans and the enormous effect on energy-use and health), without the nutscode link. I just think the thermographics more or less prove the theory. This way the discussion would fit in the most logical forum.
Greetings,
Arno

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arno
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Message 6 of 14 (342306)
08-22-2006 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by CK
08-22-2006 7:04 AM


Re: thermoregulating skills
We made some thermographics of a polar bear and a brown beer at a cold winter day. The brown bear showed a cold nose, the polar beer a warm nose, besides that the fur looked pretty similar. Because of the thick very good insulating furs they won't cool down or heat up very fast, but they also have a problem losing internal heat after e.g. a long run (this can overheat and kill an polar beer). A white bear might even feel more comforable in the sun than a brown beer.

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arno
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Message 7 of 14 (342310)
08-22-2006 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by CK
08-22-2006 7:04 AM


Re: thermoregulating skills
The difference between a reptile using his skin and the sun and people using clothing and shoes is pretty big. If you are not wearing shoes and live outdoors a lot, you'll grow pretty thick "footsoles", your bloodvessels probably also develop normal. The result would be that you'll feel pretty comfortable within a relatively wide temperature range (comfortzone). You'll be able to walk on warm stones and even ice. On the other hand, the very small feet of those older chinese women (thanks to cultural shoe-strategies) will have a very different perception of comfort. There shoes prevented a normal development, which probable makes them feel very quick warm or cold.
I think the same go's more or less for clothing, children who are allways forced into warm clothing, because mummy is affraid they'll catch a cold won't create a big "comfortzone".

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arno
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Message 8 of 14 (342313)
08-22-2006 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Wounded King
08-22-2006 7:22 AM


Re: thermoregulating skills
Sorry, I didn't travel to the northpole yet with a camera, maybe in the future. You'll probably can find these differences closer to home. Monkeys grow a little extra fat towards the winter (the ones who live in mountaines), if it really gets cold they migrate to more comfortable places. Some people tend towards having fatreserves all year round, some people eat a little as possible, some work-out, some do bodybuilding, some shave there legs, some don't, some like a chilly house, some a sauna. You don't need to look for ancient people to find differences in thermoregulating skills. I think the biggest difference between "modern- " and e.g. "tribal- " people is the focus on the house. Modern people tend to regulate there complete surrounding area for 24 hours a day all year long. Animals don't, they use the surrounding area (sun or shade, high or low) and use all kinds of thermoregulating tools. There focus is on themselves. It would be much more energy-efficint if we changed our focus from buildings to clothing and thermoregulation. Tribal people probably have more thermoregulating skills that city-people.

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arno
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Message 10 of 14 (342947)
08-24-2006 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Larni
08-24-2006 4:06 AM


Re: thermoregulating skills
Were it not for our ability to manipulate the environment we would be restricted (in all likleyhood) to tropical and sub tropical bands.
With as much as an iglo and the right clothing it's possible to survive almost everywhere on this planet. I'm not saying that we all should live like captain Caveman. But building houses as closed as a plastic bag keeping them at steady high temperatures and controled humidity all the time does seem a bit overreacted. I would like to see more open architecture and green like the Hundertwasser designs. It gives you the opportunity to look for a comfortable place intstead of beng treated like a commercial monoculture pig.

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arno
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Message 13 of 14 (343244)
08-25-2006 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Larni
08-25-2006 8:27 AM


Re: thermoregulating skills
I agree. If everyone would put on a sweater instead of turning up the heat, you'll probably save 50%. I'm glad I'm adapted to loosing heat. All this insulating fat everywhere makes it pretty difficult to lose heat though.

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