The original plan that prompted the writing of the OP was to have a thread that simply explored particulars of mutation, with a focus on what beneficial means, in which my role would be mostly to ask questions while avoiding giving my own perspective. I don't know how I got so off track as to write the OP I did, since it doesn't reflect that original idea, but I did and now I'm embroiled as usual in defending my views, and simply discussing the particulars of mutation just isn't going to happen here for me.
Wounded King started another thread at the same time, because I'd asked him to, for the same purpose, to explore mutations, and unfortunately I didn't see his thread and went ahead and wrote my own. However, his thread,
Mutation and its role in evolution: A Beginner's Guide, rather than succeeding as a beginner's guide, for me in any case, is so far over my head that it too is not useful for the original purpose of elucidating the mechanisms of mutation. It also isn't particularly focused on the question of what a beneficial mutation is, which is really the main concern.
Maybe I will find a way to reorient myself to either or both of these threads, or maybe eventually a new thread can be put up that does succeed at the original objective, but for now I don't see much value in my continuing to fight the usual battle in the face of all the objections, so I will probably try to organize a new thread for the Theological Creationism and ID forum.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.