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Author Topic:   Hypermacroevolution? Hypermicroevolution
RickJB
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Message 223 of 284 (344166)
08-28-2006 3:03 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by mjfloresta
08-28-2006 1:41 AM


Re: Response please
Mjfloresta, you have a talent for making statements that sound clearly thought out, but are in fact devoid of content.
Mjfloresta writes:
It is likely that each of the species that you mention are representative of kinds that are no longer well represented..
Well represented? Do they exist or do they not? Did they exist at all? Where can evidence of them be found?
Mjfloresta writes:
In these cases, the sloth or the kangaroo likely are the lone living representatives of their respective kinds, thus they are isolated taxonomically..
What evidence makes this "likely"?

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RickJB
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Message 226 of 284 (344181)
08-28-2006 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by Faith
08-28-2006 3:22 AM


Re: Response please
faith writes:
rickJB writes:
What evidence makes this "likely"?
It's a reasonable hypothesis based on the creationist model of all modern life forms having microevolved from the pairs that were on the ark, which is after all what is being argued here.
So if I say off the top of my head that it is "likely" that humans evolved from space unicorns, is that a good hypothesis?
Oh, and what creationist model are you talking about? The one that defies all attempts at definition?
Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

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RickJB
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Message 229 of 284 (344198)
08-28-2006 4:32 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by Faith
08-28-2006 4:21 AM


Re: Response please
Okay, so if you have a hypothesis then you should also have some means of demonstrating it.
Show us the evidence that supports your model.
faith writes:
....but I may yet do it
Until that time your (and MJ's) YEC assertions will remain as baseless as my space unicorn hypothesis.

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RickJB
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Message 231 of 284 (344200)
08-28-2006 4:39 AM
Reply to: Message 228 by Faith
08-28-2006 4:29 AM


Re: Response please
faith writes:
It is very odd that anyone would raise a question about this. What explanation can there be for such taxonomically isolated creatures other than that their predecessors and cousins on the taxonomic tree have become extinct?
Ah, but you seem to forget that there is much more work to be done! Your hypothesis has to work on multiple levels.
You have yet to show how such change could have happened over only 4000 years. You have yet to show how the animals found their way to that part of the world in the first place. You have yet to define a "kind" that might have given rise to the species in question.

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RickJB
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Message 232 of 284 (344203)
08-28-2006 4:48 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by Faith
08-28-2006 4:39 AM


Re: Response please
faith writes:
We are offering an alternative explanatory framework for the SAME information the ToE uses.
There is no evidence in biology or paleontology for hypermacroevolution, therefore the ToE rejects it. There is no evidence in geology for a global flood, therefore the ToE rejects it.
And you say you're using the same evidence? Don't make me laugh!

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