Message 227 of 230 (335902)
07-28-2006 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Faith
12-31-2005 12:43 AM
Re: A few scripture references that are dif
Jesus said to his apostles
(Joh 6:70 DRB) (6:71) Jesus answered them: Have not I chosen you twelve? And one of you is a devil.
The writers of the gospels say that Judas is the one spoken of as the devil. That is why the people of the world that it was Judas. HOWEVER, THOSE WRITERS WERE MEN (green note)
However, look at the Words He spoke, concerning the power of HIS words.
Joh 12:48 `He who is rejecting me, and not receiving my sayings, (blue note)
hath one who is judging him, the word that I spake, that will judge him in the last day,
(Joh 12:49 YLT) because I spake not from myself, but the Father who sent me, He did give me a command, what I may say, and what I may speak.
My premise is that the Words of Jesus are the correct ones and not the words of men. This caused great error by those that started the church. They were told that Jesus fulfilled the law of God and even His own Words were not more important than those of the apostles were. So the words of the apostles are used more by teachers of God’s plan and are told to supersede the Words of God.
(Jer 11:10 YLT) They have turned back to the iniquities of their first fathers, Who refused to hear My words, And they have gone after other gods to serve them, The house of Israel, and the house of Judah, Have made void My covenant, that I made with their fathers.(blue note)(purple note)
Since the words spoken by Jesus are sure, we have to believe them. Why then are we hesitant to see the truth of this
(Mat 16:23 ASV) But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.
HE called Peter Satan. In another translation
(Mat 16:23 YLT) and he having turned, said to Peter
`Get thee behind me, adversary! Thou art a stumbling-block to me, for thou dost not mind the things of God, but the things of men.' (Green note)
Both of these are correct, as Satan is translated Adversary or enemy. Nevertheless, he used the name SATAN. Note that the same word is used in this passage when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness
(Mat 4:10 KJV+) Then5119 saith3004 Jesus2424 unto him, 846 Get thee hence, 5217 Satan: 4567 for1063 it is written, 1125 Thou shalt worship4352 the Lord2962 thy4675 God, 2316 and2532 him846 only3441 shalt thou serve.3000
(Mat 16:23 KJV+) But1161 he3588 turned, 4762 and said2036 unto Peter, 4074 Get5217 thee behind3694 me, 3450 Satan: 4567 thou art1488 an offense4625 unto me:3450 for3754 thou savorest5426 not3756 the things3588 that be of God, 2316 but235 those3588 that be of men.444
The numbers are of Strong’s concordance, numbering the original words in the Bible, SHOWING THAT HE USED THE VERY SAME WORD EACH TIME
Blue note 1 (Note that he says that words that were not listened to leads them to an idol. Moreover, of all his words this is one that none listened to of the church, that is when he called Peter Satan)
Purple note 1 (The old covenant was that of judgment, as opposed to that of false gods that offered a way out of it, Grace.)
Green note 1 (The reference to men shows the origin of false words comes not from God but men.)
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