Sad what creationism can do to a mind, part 2

You're not being asked to support the contention that "There is no speciation." You're being asking to support your assertion in Message 241: In order to change this from an unsupported assertion to one supported with evidence and/or argument you would have to tell us a little about what you learned, when you delved into these, about how the scientific method wasn't followed or the definition of species was fudged.You sound like a nice, sincere, energetic, well-informed guy, please don't become an administrative headache. This is a moderated discussion board for serious debate. We have four moderators, two evolutionist and two Creationist, and there's a list of forums by moderator that you can look at. There is a set of Forum Guidelines that should be followed. If you're having trouble getting with the style here then take a step back and lurk for a while, but I don't have time to educate you on a post-by-post basis. Take up too much of my time and I will solve the problem first by temporary suspensions and finally by banning. SLPx has been suspended three times, so don't even think of complaining about moderator bias. This is a "please follow the guidelines" issue.------------------
--EvC Forum Administrator

Well, with all due respect, you did not make it clear WHAT you wanted when I read your post. And I don't believe I have done anything here that can possibly be construed as complaining about moderation.So this is what you want me to back up with facts?"No, there is not one non-controversial account of speciation ever occurring that everyone can agree on."Would you actually not agree with that by stating there are speciations out there that everyone, both scientists who are creationists and those who are evolutionists ALL agree on? If so, I would ask YOU to back that up with some evidence. If not, that statement can clearly stand on its own merit."There are some examples on the Net, yes. But I think you will find if you really delve into these that the scientific method was not followed in the research. All are either home cooked organisms in the lab, or the definition of species is played with to achieve the desired effect."JEP: 'I think you will find...' how do I back that up? It's obviously a statement of opinion in that I think he will find something if he researches it for himself.What is it you really are wanting, the truth out of your back yard? If so, just honestly state that and I will be glad to post somewhere else. Thanks, JEP

JEP,Sorry, mate, it looks like I'm on your case tonight. I'm not, I promise!You are under no obligation to to do this, but could you please use the quote functions? In brackets put "quote", before the text, followed by in brackets "/quote", after the text. You can use the preview option to test your results. That's the "square" brackets nearest the enter key.It makes it much, much easier to see who said what & what you are replying to.Thanks again,Mark------------------
Occam's razor is not for shaving with.[This message has been edited by mark24, 03-14-2003]

Mark is on my tail. But I have deduced that Mark is from Oz. Because it is not night in Missouri and no one else would call me 'Mate, therefore, I forgive him.So when is it proper to use the quotes? When I am quoting the text I am responding to?Also I beg to disagree with you. Occam's Razor is for shaving, just not hair.

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Mark is on my tail. But I have deduced that Mark is from Oz. Because it is not night in Missouri and no one else would call me 'Mate, therefore, I forgive him.

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So when is it proper to use the quotes? When I am quoting the text I am responding to?

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Yes.But I'm from the UK, not Oz Funnily enough we have some new Aussies moved in nearby, a pub conversation involves at least 20% of the total vocabulary used as being the word "mate", & it's not just them.....Mark------------------
Occam's razor is not for shaving with.

Got it. And you must be an OK guy because Tony Blair is one of my heros. Blair has got to a creationist.

Hi Jeptha,Sorry, it is not my job to coach you until you "get it." I suggested you lurk for a while if you're having trouble understanding what I want, but since you do not want to go that route please accept a 24 suspension of posting privileges.------------------
--EvC Forum Administrator

What a totally biased, dictator, idiot you are. Just make it permanent. I wouldn't post here again if you paid me.

Jep and Jeptha have both been permanently banned.Jep/Jeptha, if at any time you decide you are willing to follow the forum guidelines you may rejoin by contacting me at Admin.------------------
--EvC Forum Administrator

It seems that we are frequently reminded of the appropriateness of the title I chose for this thread.And I was so hoping to find out if the good Reverned Jerry Don had figured out how to use his scientific calculator...

JEP,

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Got it. And you must be an OK guy because Tony Blair is one of my heros. Blair has got to a creationist.

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If he is, he isn't of the aggressive type. We have Darwin on our new 10 notes .Mark.------------------
Occam's razor is not for shaving with.

I know this is off topic but sheesh, you banned my old buddy Jep before I even tumbled to the fact that he was talking about me.
He wrote. I am not exactly a thermodynamics professor but I do teach thermo of surfaces and interfaces in one of my courses. I really wanted to ask Jeptha, the ultra-arrogant self-styled creationist thermo expert, if he ever figured out how an endothermic reaction could be spontaneous and why it is that heat is absorbed rather than released when something evaporates. I wonder if he ever finished the book he was ostensibly writing on thermodynamics. He disappeared from OCW and ARN without a trace. At least we know he is still around somewhere.Oh well, I wasted too much time on him before. He really does seem to be a validation of the title Scott gave to this thread.
Randy

I doubt it. Whatever else his faults, that's not one of them. Anyway, Blair's a Roman Catholic, and like all the mainstream Christian denominations, they have no problems with science.