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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days)  Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I'm really not getting anything out of your post at all. You're going to have to flesh it out a lot more.
Igor_the_hero writes: Jesus is the only perfect person.(Born of a virgin, remember?) So what would it mean if he had kids? Just off the top of my head, I'd say it would "mean" absolutely nothing if He had kids. Is having kids some kind of "imperfection"? How would having kids change His teachings?
It just doesn't match up with what the Bible says that marriage is to be displayed and stuff. So, what does the Bible say "that marriage is to be displayed"? What does the Bible say that would make any difference in whether or not Jesus was married? Give us something to work with here.  Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes: If He were not actually the unique Son of God but rather merely another in a long line of human teachers, would that affect the source and origin of your personal faith? No. The message is valid because it makes sense: "love thy neighbour" just works out better for everybody. If "the unique Son of God" came along with a message of "flood they neighbour", would you buy it?
... do you actually think that you yourself are the source of this power and ability? I get by with a little help from my friends.
I suppose that theoretically Jesus COULD have been married, although I think that the symbolism is that we all are His family. Don't confuse symbolism with reality. Jesus said that (symbolically) all men are His brothers. That doesn't mean that He didn't have real biological brothers. Similarly, if the church is (symbolically) His wife, that doesn't mean that He didn't have a real biological wife. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes: Topic: How likely is it that Jesus Got Married? Yes. So I won't get into the question of the virgin birth or the myth of original sin.
Jesus would have no need for marriage because... He did not need to have communion with a woman to feel completeness in Himself. I don't think any man (or woman) needs to be married to feel "completeness" in themselves. But if Jesus was truly human, He certainly would feel a need to "have communion with a woman". Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NosyNed writes: Didn't Jesus' Dad have a kid -- out of wedlock and with a woman married to another? Y'know, Ned, I didn't get your joke at first (just a dumb stubble-jumper from Saskatchewan). I always capitalize God's name in all its forms, but I didn't notice when you did it. At first, I thought you were talking about Joseph. Either way, having kids seems to have been traditional in Jesus' family.  Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
arachnophilia writes: only "there and back again" is the authoritative word of tolkien Bilbo appears in person in The Fellowship of the Ring. Need I quote chapter and verse? (Of course, The Silmarillion is clearly fictional - mythical, e-vun. ) Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
arachnophilia writes: some hold that it is the continuing word of tolkien, as given to bilbo's nephew/cousin/heir/whatever, frodo baggins. They are the only "True Tolkienians". The rest will never go over Sea. (This is all a nice commentary on canon and historicity - but it doesn't help the topic much, since Bilbo never married. ) Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes: Ringo writes: ... if Jesus was truly human, He certainly would feel a need to "have communion with a woman". Heck, even communion with a woman is a challenge! Exactly. If Jesus never faced that challenge, how could He be "fully human"? By the way, you do know that "communion with a woman" is a euphemism, don't you?
Jesus was so fully devoted to His Bride....which includes all of us...that He would have no time to focus on but one significant other. And yet He had time to go to weddings, go fishing, etc.You seem to have a low opinion of His multitasking skills. Personally, I think the idea that Jesus never "consorted" with women (another euphemism) is very misogynistic. Why else would the idea of Him touching a woman seem "dirty"? You might as well suggest that He never went to the bathroom. Edited by Ringo, : Spellling. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
U can call me Cookie writes: I wonder if the same uproar occurred when people started portraying Jesus as a pale European. I don't know, but there certainly is an uproar every time He is portrayed as an African.  I would think if anybody ever represented Everyman, it should be Jesus. (And Everyman has children.) Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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