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jar
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Message 17 of 119 (341623)
08-20-2006 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Hyroglyphx
08-19-2006 11:47 PM


Re: Global Warming
I'm just asking how they have surmised that it isnt attributed to a natural cycle that we weren't around in the past to understand.
Why would anyone care?
That is what is so absolutely laughable about today's conservatives.
If it is totally natural, will the effects be any less?
There are a few things we can do to mitigate the effects, why not do them?
Edited by jar, : appallin spallin

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jar
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Message 26 of 119 (341636)
08-20-2006 1:01 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Hyroglyphx
08-20-2006 12:49 AM


Re: Global Warming
If its natural then what do you want to do about that?
You do the same things you'd do if it were man made. You do those things you can do, things like:
  • reduce emmissions.
  • move folk from low lying areas.
  • repair the infrastructure.
  • curtail water consumption.
  • get rid of the gas guzzler vehicles.
  • build a plan for handle 30-50 US Internal Million refugees.
  • put together an inventory of available supplies and resources.
  • stockpile a two year supply of food for 100 Million people.
Those are a FEW steps it would be wise to take.

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jar
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Message 114 of 119 (345214)
08-30-2006 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by DBlevins
08-30-2006 7:35 PM


Re: Global Warming
One key factor is turning agriculture into food is predictability and forethought. There are a bunch of steps between the two.
If we go into a period of rapid change, there will have to be some major issues of logistics solved.
  1. where will the ariable land be next year?
  2. how do we get the people, material, equipment and expertise to the land?
  3. how do we get water to the land? (just look at some current water projects to get an idea of the scale)
  4. how do we transport the product to either end consumer or processor?
  5. how are current people in the chain that may be displaced to be compensated?
  6. what if the new ariable area does not have
    • roads...
    • water...
    • experienced stewards...
    • is in an unfriendly nation ...
  7. what is the minimal length of time land must be productive to return the investment in infrastructure?
  8. what if next year all the above change?

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jar
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Message 116 of 119 (345223)
08-30-2006 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by DBlevins
08-30-2006 7:56 PM


Re: Global Warming
I thought Holmes was speaking more directly of the geological availability of land as global warming occurs.
I too thought that was the subject. The problem is that even if the land is there, is arable, if all the other conditions aren't available it just doesn't matter.

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