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joshua221 
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Message 1 of 124 (346641)
09-05-2006 10:29 AM


Thank you for competition, for fatalities, for this rat-race.
Thank you for nicotine in cigarettes.
Thank you for the corporate money-making world.
Thank you for money.
Thank you for business as usual.
Thank you for the have-nots.
Thank you for the struggling.
Thank you for Social Darwinism.
Thank you for Industrialization.
Thank you for mediocrity.
Thank you for ghettoes.
Thank you for slums.
Thank you for retirement at 65.
Thank you for meaningless occupation.
Thank you for jobs.
Thank you for slavery.
Thank you for misleading the entire world.
Thank you for World Wars.
Thank you for killing for oil.
Thank you for Jingoism.
Thank you for Imperialism.
Thank you for borders.
Thank you for Nationalism.
Thank you for September 11th.
Thank you for terrorism.
Thank you for the primitive workings of the human mind.
Thank you for automobiles and thank you for pollution.
Thank you for not really living.
Thank you for the suburbs.
Thank you for the American Dream.
Thank you for conformity.
Thank you for glass cielings.
Thank you for Capitalism.
Thank you for the System

Thank you for nothing.


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Message 2 of 124 (346650)
09-05-2006 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
09-05-2006 10:29 AM


Needs lots of work.
Cutesy; nice little rant, no real substance and a typical Gish Gallop start but nothing there really worth debating.

If you can revise the OP so that there is a subject and in a short paragraphy describe your position and what the issue is you want to discuss, post a reply here and I will happily take another look at it.


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    Message 3 of 124 (346653)
    09-05-2006 11:39 AM
    Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
    09-05-2006 11:35 AM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    Hi Jar!

    I had different take on this one. Seems a nice Coffee House topic, what do you think?

    --Percy


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    Message 4 of 124 (346654)
    09-05-2006 11:43 AM
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    09-05-2006 11:39 AM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    I think not. It is classic Gish Gallop, with over 30 unsupported assertions, each of which would require a dialog to address. Charlie has been here long enough to know that the tactic of throwing a plate of spaghetti on the ceiling to see what sticks is not a productive form of debate.
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    Message 5 of 124 (346658)
    09-05-2006 12:00 PM
    Reply to: Message 4 by AdminJar
    09-05-2006 11:43 AM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    I thought it was a poem, maybe I'm just bohemian.

    TTFN,

    AW


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    Message 6 of 124 (346662)
    09-05-2006 12:17 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
    09-05-2006 10:29 AM


    I will promote this
    But I think that it would serve best as a philosophy 101 type topic.

    I have a couple of questions for you first.

    Do you want this presented as a springboard for a topic on free expression? A place for true freedom II? Free expression of emotions, ideas, and critiques?
    In other words, if you want to propose a new topic, do you want it to be a continuation of True Freedom in that it will serve as a philosophical exchange of ideas, or do you actually want to focus on Adam Smith specifically?

    Edited by AdminPhat, : clarification


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    joshua221 
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    Message 7 of 124 (346694)
    09-05-2006 2:05 PM


    I think it will spark quite a large debate, and I am prepared to defend the claims. And tell what I meant by writing it. Thought it might make some people realize some things, or perhaps myself. Wrote it down today after sociology. I take back what I said about college by the way. Good stuff, that class.
      
    joshua221 
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    Message 8 of 124 (346695)
    09-05-2006 2:06 PM
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    09-05-2006 12:00 PM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    It has that feel to it right?
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    joshua221 
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    Message 9 of 124 (346699)
    09-05-2006 2:09 PM
    Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
    09-05-2006 11:35 AM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    quote:
    a typical Gish Gallop start but nothing there really worth debating.

    No, it's all worth debating.

    I didn't want to revise the OP, I think I would ruin it's highly controversial nature, and taint it's original qualities.

    It is what it is you know?


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    Message 10 of 124 (346717)
    09-05-2006 3:27 PM
    Reply to: Message 4 by AdminJar
    09-05-2006 11:43 AM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    He is laying all the ills of the modern world upon capitalism, and of course he's right. ;) Seems perfect Coffee House fodder.


    --Percy
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    Message 11 of 124 (346718)
    09-05-2006 3:34 PM
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    09-05-2006 3:27 PM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    If that is your opinion then promote it.
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    Message 12 of 124 (346725)
    09-05-2006 4:04 PM
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    09-05-2006 3:34 PM


    Re: Needs lots of work.
    AdminJar writes:

    If that is your opinion then promote it.

    You're not getting off that easy - I demand consensus! I refuse to let you have my way until everyone agrees with me! :D


    --Percy
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    Message 13 of 124 (346727)
    09-05-2006 4:08 PM


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    Message 14 of 124 (346730)
    09-05-2006 4:13 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
    09-05-2006 10:29 AM


    And thank you....
    God, for creating Adam Smith.

    How's the philosophy course going?

    Brian.


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    Message 15 of 124 (346735)
    09-05-2006 4:35 PM
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    09-05-2006 4:13 PM


    Re: And thank you....
    Hey he never blamed Adam Smith for fried mars bars and KFC! I feel cheated.
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