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Author Topic:   Buzsaw's Belief Statement
nator
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Message 39 of 59 (346951)
09-06-2006 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
09-06-2006 9:49 AM


Re: Brief And Boring?
No thorns means no roses.

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nator
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Message 44 of 59 (347228)
09-07-2006 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Buzsaw
09-06-2006 8:54 PM


Re: Brief And Boring?
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I wasn't there but the implication is that the rose bushes had no thorns. The curse barbed up the roses.

Roses have thorns to protect the flowers and fruit from creatures that would eat them.

Are you saying that those insects and caterpillars that eat roses are hellspawn or something?

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I have a lot of wild rasberrys around my 8 acres. I love to eat the berrys, but OUCH, when I try to get in among them to prune or make a path without proper clothing and gloves. Yah, thornless plants would be cool!

Cool for you, but bad for the berry bushes.

If there were no thorns, and those creatures who would eat them get all of the berries instead of some being inaccessable because there are just too many thorns, then how are the raspberry bushes going to reseed themselves?


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nator
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Message 50 of 59 (347832)
09-09-2006 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Buzsaw
09-09-2006 3:58 PM


Re: Brief And Boring?
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The implication is that everything was so perfect ecologically that the pests were no problem and that there was so much plush fruit et al that there was no problem of shortage so far as reseeding.

But, "pest" is such a loaded term.

If there aren't any thorns, things that would eat roses and raspberries would eat them all.

Thorns are good for the berries, but bad for the caterpillars.

Being bad-tasting is good for caterpillars but bad for the birds that would eat them and feed them to their young.

...etc.

Everything is consumed, and if it is to survive, everything develops some kind of defense against being completely (as, in a whole species) consumed by something else.

Bad things happen in a ecosystem in which there are no checks or balances among the various organisms.

Ever hear of kudsu?


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