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judge
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Message 38 of 64 (35033)
03-23-2003 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by PaulK
03-23-2003 5:11 PM


A modern fad?
PaulK:
Well that seems clear. There is a conflict between science and creationist religion. So why try to deny something that is obvious from your own post ?
BTW if evolution is part of naturalism can you explain why Christians such as Kenneth Millar and Howard Van Till see no conflict ? Surely the fact is that evolution conflicts, not with Christianity in genreal, but with the beliefs of some Christian sects.
judge:
As early as 418
the Council of Carthage in A.D. 418 condemned as heresy the three following propositions:
(1) Adam was created mortal and would have died whether he had sinned or not.
(2) The sin of Adam hurt only himself, and not all mankind.
(3) Newborn infants die in the same state as Adam was in before the Fall.
Jesuit scholar Thomas Chetwood has outlined how these beleifs persisted in mainstrean christianity through the centuries. The belief in common descent in Christianity is a modern fad when viewed in this historical context.
The immortality of Adam is explicitly defined by the Church. For the Sixteenth Council of Carthage (418 A.D.), the decrees of which were approved by Pope Zozimus, teaches: "If anyone shall say that Adam was created mortal, so that he would have died in the body whether he had sinned or not sinned, let him be anathema." And the same doctrine is confirmed by the decrees of Orange and Trent.
Chetwood, Thomas B., S. J., God and Creation, Ben Zigger Brothers, New York, 1928, pp.145ff

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judge
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Message 60 of 64 (35374)
03-26-2003 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Gzus
03-26-2003 4:58 PM


Good point
Why say Godidit? Why not Satandidit or TheGodsdidit or Mydeadcatdidit or Buddhadidit or Allahdidit or it just happened for no apparent reason? Why God, specifically?
Yeahhh......maybe your dead cat did it.
Hey i never thought of that but now that you mention it ..it actually explains a lot of of other stuff. Hmmmm...

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