To tell you the truth, I kinda understand where crash is coming from. Between having to choose to read between either long posts of crash or of holmes, I'd choose crash's anyday.
Holmes seems to put too much effort in trying to mimic the writing style of german philosophers and dances (naked) around the points that he seems to want to not make. Crash, on the other hand, goes right to the point.
The exchanges between crash can best be summarized as:
Crash: ok, answer me this much. Do you agree that 2+2=4?
Holmes: While it is clear that the summation of two numbers can best be represented by a number that equals the summation of those two numbers, many mathematicians throughout the ages have come up with various ways to mathematically model what we see as inherent physical properties in nature. In fact, for centuries the Ancient greeks used what we now know as the Pythagorian theorem to build their great monuments, some of which can still be seen throughout Greece. Proof of such a theorem, while can be very obvious to a person that has taken geometry and algebra in high school, eluded the Greeks until it was written out by the Ancient Greek mathematician Pythagoras. And probably like many other Ancient Greek men, Pythagoras probably had sexual relationships with young boys. In fact, we must recognize that young people who are under the legal age can and do have sex and there seems to be no indication that such activity necessarily leads to psychological disorders.
Crash: Holmes, I asked a simple question and you refused to answer me. You can fuck off, Holmes.
Holmes: The answer is right there in front of your eyes, yet you wish to ignore it. You asked me what I thought about mathematical models and I answered it promptly. The classical civilizations were able to use what we now regard as simple mathematical concepts to build great structures. Their civilizations lasted far longer than any modern nation today. And as such, many of them embraced sexuality among what we consider to be children. Their societies were stable for a very long time. We, then, must consider that children can and do have sex.
Crash: Whatever! Just get off your superior condescending tone and answer the question the directly. Is 2+2=4? If you continue to purposely misread what I say, then you can fuck off.
Holmes: It is my understanding that many ancient civilizations developed very complex mathematics, which can be demonstrated by the myriads of ancient wonders that are still standing today. And as such, these ancient cultures also shared somewhat similar views on sex, especially with children. Girls were often married off at very early age.
Crash: Grr.... fuck off, holmes!
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