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Minnemooseus
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Message 18 of 303 (34919)
03-21-2003 12:25 PM


Admin may or may not be getting a little too gung-ho, but I must (in admin mode) defer to his expertise on the forums guidelines.
I do see a little to much non-admin mode (Percy) creeping into things from Admin, at least on occassion.
My prime example, quoting Admin, from http://EvC Forum: John A. (Salty) Davison - The Case For Instant Evolution -->EvC Forum: John A. (Salty) Davison - The Case For Instant Evolution, is:
quote:
Either I'm completely missing the point, in which case additional explanation is required, or this is incorrect. The duration of an event, ie, of how long it takes for a genetic error to occur during reproduction, serves only as an upper limit on the rate at which such events can occur. Darwinists believe the rate of occurence of such events is the important factor in the rate of genetic change, not the duration of the events themselves. If Salty is arguing that the perspective he characterizes is wrong then I think most evolutionists would agree with him, but it isn't a perspective any of us very likely share.
To me, this should have come from Percy, not Admin.
I may be wrong.
Moose (non-admin mode)

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Minnemooseus
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Message 20 of 303 (34927)
03-21-2003 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Admin
03-21-2003 1:49 PM


quote:
Salty was confusing units of time to units of 1/time.
Ooooooooh, so that's what you were talking about - never mind.
Emily LaTella Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 25 of 303 (34961)
03-22-2003 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Admin
03-22-2003 9:23 AM


From the non-admin mode
quote:
I've been restricting PB's GUToB threads, and I'm strongly leaning toward closing down Salty's thread.
However flawed it may be, I think the Salty topic is the very model of what we are striving for, for Peter Borger. It is akin to the William Scott style of a topic.
quote:
As I've already said, any idea or theory is allowed here, but I'm growing weary of sponsoring irrational, sometimes even senseless, debate.
I think (hard-core evo point of view) that if we truly cut out the irrational debate, that would pretty much cut out the creationist side completely.
Creationists are criticised for condeming the mainstream ToE, without offering any valid scientific alternative. Salty and Peter Borger (and others?) are attempting to put out an alternative ToE. The mainstream may think it's all hooey, but that type hooey is what drives the existance of this site.
Even if Saltys and Borgers concepts are badly flawed, I say, let's explore to see if there may be at least a bit of truth present.
Or something like that.
Moose
"The opinions here expressed may not necessarily be those of a sane mind" - Ian Schoal (Ducks Breath Radio) {I think - Moose}

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Minnemooseus
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Message 28 of 303 (34964)
03-22-2003 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Admin
03-22-2003 1:17 PM


Re: From the non-admin mode
quote:
...and all these theories are so illogical I don't worry that they'll ever come to anywhere near that kind of prominence of YEC or more recently ID, in fact they'll all likely live and die with their originators.
I'm not sure where ID fits in, but in general this is a good summary of the fact the the creation/evolution debate is pretty much a YEC/science debate, with old earth creationism being left "outside looking in".
Added by edit - Actually, I suspect that Salty and Borgers ideas are some sort of variation of ID - end edit.
By the way, you're saying they are less logical than young-earthism?
It also comments on why my various theistic evolution, old earth creationism, and such topics have pretty much gone nowhere.
Sidenote: By far, of all the topics that I have started, by far the two that have the most messages, are "Terry at the Talk Origins Board" and the new Salty topic.
Moose
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Minnemooseus
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Message 46 of 303 (35080)
03-24-2003 9:58 AM


At http://www.laurelhighlandsmedia.com/ they describe Salty' manifesto as: "John A. Davison's unique perspective on evolution"
I don't see Salty as being the problem Peter Borger has been, since Salty at least has been focused to only one topic.
But anyhow, if a special place for Peter Borger et all is needed, perhaps a "Unique Perspective" forum should be started. Somehow PB etc. would have to be confined to the individual forum.
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 85 of 303 (38868)
05-03-2003 2:50 PM


Topic bump for Gene90
Gene may not be aware of this topic, which has become the home for discussion of forum moderation procedures.
I will get back to the terrorism topic, and make a probably short statement, somewhere along the line. I am not going to do it off-topic, in a "Free For All" forum.
minnemooseus (the non-admin mode of Adminnemooseus)

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Minnemooseus
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Message 93 of 303 (45880)
07-13-2003 1:29 AM


Buz vs. Percy
Schraf, from message 67, of the "PROOF against evolution" topic:
quote:
Well, why not ask True Creation to have a look, in his Admin. mode. He's fair, and a Creationist.
In all honesty, I'm inclined to think that TC (non-dmin mode) has been as bad as, if not worse than Buz, as far as debating in good faith. Which reminds me, I need to get back to the "Pseudo YEC" topic someday.
Buz does need to work on his quality, BUT I'm thinking one word for Percy also - decaf.
Now, I need to brew up an expresso, and see if I can do my grand pseudo-geologist reply to Buz, in the "radiometric" topic.
In the non-admin mode,
Moose
ps - If you think Buz is bad, it's time to revisit Terry at his Talk Origins.
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Minnemooseus
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Message 128 of 303 (82186)
02-02-2004 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by MPW
02-02-2004 3:08 PM


If a bunch of people choose to wallow around in a cesspool, I'm inclined to think they are all losers.
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 255 of 303 (158018)
11-10-2004 1:20 PM


U.S. Politics related topics (Coffee House)
I'm about as anti-Bush as anyone here, but I do think that it's perhaps time to stop the flood of new U.S. politics topics.
Moose (not in the admin-mode)

Minnemooseus
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Message 264 of 303 (162659)
11-23-2004 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by MrHambre
11-23-2004 12:13 PM


London Calling
At WOJB (see wojb.org if you wish) I played the entire "London Calling" the week after Joe Strummer died. Never noticed the "FCC violation".
Relistened to the tune now - A lot of the words are pretty slurred, but the "fuck's" is clearly there.
I once aired the Pogues "Bottle of Smoke". Much more of the "great F-word", but largely so slurred it can pass without notice unless you're listening closely.
But I'm now off-topic. Sorry.
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 285 of 303 (163942)
11-29-2004 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by frank
11-29-2004 12:09 PM


Re: The post that got Moose banned
The context is that the now deleted message was message 20 of the Undecided Voters (new) topic. It was a reply to Terry's message 5, although actually a general reply to Terry.
You may need to page back as the pages there do not have fixed beginning and end message numbers.
To me, it seems Terry is trying to spread the blame for the stupidity of starting the war. That's why I pointed out the "Chief Executive Officer" and "Commander in Chief" titles of GWB.
But moderation issues at other forums should not be part of this topic. Further discussion should be taken to the Terry at the Talk Origins board topic, started by (gasp) minnemooseus back on 9/18/02.

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