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Message 34 of 195 (350397)
09-19-2006 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by robinrohan
09-19-2006 3:26 PM


The liberal Christians, I would argue, are incorrect in thinking there can be accomodation.
Well, since we know that many "liberal Christians," as well as many non-liberal Christians, have arrived at such an accomodation, your statement is demonstrably false.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

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Message 145 of 195 (351429)
09-22-2006 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Faith
09-22-2006 4:45 PM


Re: the appeal of evolution
What you will never understand, or accept, is that evolution has assumed the dominant position that it has because of the over 100 years that it has successfully served as the single unifying theory of biology. You, and others of your ilk, repeatedly assert that evolution is simply assumed, and that all the science that builds on it is based on that assumption. Since you refuse to fully examine the history of how evolution came to its dominance, it's fairly easy and comforting for you to repeat the mantra, "It's all an assumption."
Real science is done despite the faulty assumptions it rests on.
It would be amusing to hear you try to explain how "Real science" can be done based on "assumptions" that are as "faulty" as you think evolution is. I mean, you've written tens of thousands of words explaining why you think it has no basis in fact and no evidence to support it. You also seem to understand that evolution is the basis for most everything that is done in biology, and countless other fields, even though you dispute that evolution is true. Given these things, how would it be remotely possible for "Real science" to be done based on such a completely baseless "assumption?"

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Message 150 of 195 (351441)
09-22-2006 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Faith
09-22-2006 5:48 PM


Re: the appeal of evolution
It would be amusing to hear you try to explain how "Real science" can be done based on "assumptions" that are as "faulty" as you think evolution is.
Curious that you skipped this part. But you never have spent much time truly analysing hard questions.
Oh, and a scientific theory doesn't gain universal and rapid acceptance as evolution did just because there's nothing better. It does so because it explains so much.

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Message 162 of 195 (351560)
09-23-2006 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Faith
09-22-2006 11:30 PM


Re: evolution and Christianity
I understand that you don't believe the Bible is inspired by God, but to one who does, there is no way anything that contradicts it can be said to "tell" us anything that is to be trusted. Geology and physics can't trump God. That's that. We accept what they say that doesn't contradict His word and there's lots of that.
By this statement you disqualify yourself from any discussion involving scientific analysis. Science never elevates any hypothesis, theory, law or evidence to the level where it is beyond questioning. Nothing is certain in science. Everything is tentative pending the discovery of new evidence, or even a new hypothesis that better explains the evidence that we have.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

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