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Author Topic:   Why do Christians make God out to be dumb?
Taz
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Message 217 of 259 (352853)
09-28-2006 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by Muhd
09-08-2006 1:00 AM


Re: Contradiction
Muhd writes:
Not saying that I necessarily understand that era or what God was trying to accomplish in that era, but I will say that if we are talking about the killing of the Amalekites...
It's not just that. The Isrealites were ordered, supposedly by god, to commit genocide on a horrendous level through biblical history. Men and women were slaughtered, virgin girls were raped, innocent children murdered, and even the most innocent of the innocents (the cattles) weren't spared.
Ok, so these were "sinful" people. I take it that since my neighbor isn't a christian I should go over and kill his 2 year old daughter?
People like you have a sad way of interpreting god's words.
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Message 220 of 259 (352915)
09-28-2006 5:00 PM
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09-28-2006 2:10 PM


Re: Contradiction
robinhood writes:
Are you suggesting that these actions were morally wrong?
It really depends. Socrates once asked "is an action morally right because god says so or does god say so because it is morally right?"
ALL christians that I have talked to said that it is right because god says so. Therefore, I have to assume that my atheistic morality is far superior to god's.
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Message 231 of 259 (353163)
09-29-2006 3:20 PM
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09-29-2006 3:01 PM


robinrohan writes:
what I object to among the liberals is their trying to read into the Bible modern ideas which are not there...
Robin, what some of us are saying is that much of the bible isn't really about morals and values. For instance, the idea that god went through all the trouble of creating the fundamental laws of physics, biology, genetics, etc. and then demand that we not investigate any of those things and just call them all magic isn't about morals or values. It's just stupid, which is what liberals are trying to point out.
For example, have you ever hidden easter eggs for the little ones to find? I have. It's fun to watch those little critters running around looking under plants and rocks. Now, imagine a woman showing up and telling the kids that they shouldn't look for the eggs because whoever that hid the eggs obviously intended for noone to find the eggs. It's not morals or values. It's just stupid.

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Message 234 of 259 (353256)
09-29-2006 10:02 PM
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09-29-2006 4:48 PM


God didn't create the fundamental laws of nature?

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Message 238 of 259 (353265)
09-30-2006 11:50 AM
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09-29-2006 10:04 PM


robinrohan writes:
You would think they would just ignore it.
They'd ignore it if...
(1) the fundamentalists didn't use the bible everytime they wanted to exclude certain rights to certain groups via the legal system
------(A) slaves loyal to their masters because jebus says so
------(B) ban interracial marriage because god never intended different races to mix... IT put them in different places after all
------(C) subjugating women 'cuz jebus says so
------(D) gay rights issues
------(E) I'm a moron...
(2) the fundamentalists didn't try to impose christian so-called values and beliefs on everyone else
(3) creationists didn't try to teach their goddunit doctrine in our schools
(4) fundamentalists didn't bomb abortion clinics in the name of god
(5) a myriad other things
Everytime the fundies want us to go back to the dark ages, they always seem to be able to quote verses from the bible that support their views. Personally, since I'm an atheist I would just tell them to go to hell. But I'd have to be more politically correct I guess.
Like I said before. To believe in the 6 day creation and the earth is only 6000 years old isn't about morals or value. It's just stupid, just like the idea that god created all the wonders in the universe and then would damn the curious ones down to hell. Just stupid... not to mention the obvious impossibility of all the marsupials somehow swam to australia from the middle east after gotten off noah's mathematically impossible boat.

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