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Author Topic:   Faith Science - Logically Indefensible
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Message 4 of 166 (353278)
09-30-2006 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
09-30-2006 12:11 PM


"Person of faith"
Therefore any person of faith is logically unable to objectively analyse any theory or evidence that directly opposes their faith based position.
You paint with too broad a brush. Or, perhaps, your word choice could have been better. Most scientists are in fact people of faith. Most scientists have no problem, however, reconciling their faith with the facts that science has uncovered. Faith in a supreme being does not by itself disqualify one from being able to objectively evaluate evidence and come to rational conclusions about that evidence. Certainly there are people, Faith being one of them, who do not have that capacity, whose faith blinds them to anything that contradicts what they think the bible says. Fortunately, those people are a minority. Unfortunately, they seem to be able to make noise far out of proportion to their numbers.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

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Message 6 of 166 (353280)
09-30-2006 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Archer Opteryx
09-30-2006 1:11 PM


Re: Giving oxymorons their due
military intelligence
female logic

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Message 8 of 166 (353282)
09-30-2006 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by nwr
09-30-2006 1:14 PM


Re: It is not logically impossible.
It is logically possible that prayer could be the best way of gaining scientific insight, and it is logically possible that such insight would always turn out to be correct, as shown by scientific experimentation.
Well, as long as we're picking nits, I would submit that it's not even logically impossible for someone to be a creation scientist. It is certainly possible for someone to hypothesize that there is scientific evidence to support creationism and use the scientific method to try to find such evidence. Based on everything we know, they would not find any such evidence if they truly followed the scientific method, but simply getting a null result would not mean that they are not being scientific. After a certain amount of null results, they may have to admit that the hypothesis was wrong, but there is nothing logically impossible about scientifically searching for evidence of creation.

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