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Author Topic:   Does immunity disprove the fall?
kuresu
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Message 4 of 66 (353648)
10-02-2006 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by AnswersInGenitals
10-02-2006 1:33 PM


you know, I never thought of that before, but I think I know what someone like Faith might say:
"but the super-genome had the potential for the immune system, and because it got corrupted, our once possibly perfect immune system can't now defend us from genetic diseases"
"plus, even without a use for it, they may have still had one--esp. since all our current traits cannot have arisen from mutations"
I had a third one, but now I can't remember it.
oh, wait, this one will do:
"well, seeing as how we're intelligently designed, God would've included the immune system, becuase it just wouldn't do to have us die before we could multiply and be like the sands of the beach number wise. I mean, after all, he knew he would have to punish us, so he was just thinking ahead, particularly since he knows he can't rely on mutations to give us protection to at least be able to prodigiously multiply"

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kuresu
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Message 12 of 66 (353680)
10-02-2006 4:13 PM
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10-02-2006 3:09 PM


eh, it may have come off like that. not intended mind you--I was trying, at the least, to be somewhat humorous. However, I find it helpful to at least know, or to try and guess, what my opponent is going to say in response to a specific question or answer. That whole know they enemy better than they friend (or however that phrase goes). And as Faith later says, I'm not too far off.
The benefit, is that I can then work on specific counters before my opponent can argue with them.
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kuresu
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Message 13 of 66 (353684)
10-02-2006 4:23 PM
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10-02-2006 3:15 PM


we have a potential falsification of the fall--a futher deteriorating immune system, thanks to you.
Mind you, this deterioration would have to be genetic in cause. reason being is that there was a recent study done that found that living in a dirty environment significantly boosted your immune system compared to living in a sterile environment (or, perhaps more precisely, a lot less dirty of an environment). Their recommendation for a good immune system--grow up with at least a couple of pets--like a cat or dog. This decrease in the effectiveness is not due to genetics, but your environment you grow up in.
I'm not sure how this could be tested for, but I do know that it would be a long time before the experiment would be completed. And even then, it would only falsify the deterioration of the genome part of the fall.

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kuresu
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Message 19 of 66 (353705)
10-02-2006 5:15 PM
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10-02-2006 4:54 PM


creation of world, man, and free will; inevitable, pre-ordained fall of man; man cursed to toil, hardship, disease, and death; redemption and salvation of man, who now expresses limitless gratitude
wait--you mean that we're supposed to feel eternally grateful for a god that got us into this to begin with!? well I'll be . . .
why would anyone want to worship that asshole?
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