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Author Topic:   Commonalities Of Accounts Of A Universal Flood?
Faith 
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Message 54 of 92 (353988)
10-03-2006 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by jar
10-03-2006 3:02 PM


I've already given the support for this point
What does this have to do with the universal stories of a one-time flood that killed all living things?
So far you have made the assertion that there are such universal stories, but have not supported it.
Can you provide us links to all of those "universal stories of a one-time flood that killed all living things?"
I did supply that information already, in Message 6 and that site contains many many links.
The destruction of all but a few people and animals is implied in most of the myths, and directly stated in a few:
Flood Legends From Around the World
Asia
China
The Chinese classic called the Hihking tells about "the family of Fuhi," that was saved from a great flood. This ancient story tells that the entire land was flooded; the mountains and everything, however one family survived in a boat. The Chinese consider this man the father of their civilization. This record indicates that Fuhi, his wife, three sons, and three daughters were the only people that escaped the great flood. It is claimed, that he and his family were the only people alive on earth, and repopulated the world.
Greece
A long time ago, perhaps before the golden age was over, humans became proud. This bothered Zeus as they kept getting worse. Finally Zeus decided that he would destroy all humans. Before he did this Prometheus, the creator of humans, warned his human son Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha. Prometheus then placed this couple in a large wooden chest. The rains started and lasted nine days and nights until the whole world was flooded. The only thing that was not flooded was the peaks of Mount Parnassus and Mount Olympus. Mount Olympus is the home of the gods. The wooden chest came to rest on Mount Parnassus. Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha got out and saw that everything was flooded. The lived on provisions from the chest until the waters subsided. At Zeus' instruction they re-populated the earth.
United States
The Ojibwe natives who have lived in Minnesota USA since approximately 1400AD also have a creation and flood story that closely paralleles the Biblical account. "There came a time when the harmonious way of life did not continue. Men and women disrespected each other, families quarreled and soon villages began arguing back and forth. This saddened Gitchie Manido [the Creator] greatly, but he waited. Finally, when it seemed there was no hope left, Creator decided to purify Mother Earth through the use of water. The water came, flooding the Earth, catching all of creation off guard. All but a few of each living thing survived." Then it tells how Waynaboozhoo survived by floating on a log in the water with various animals.
Mexico
The Toltec natives have a legend telling that the original creation lasted for 1716 years, and was destroyed by a flood and only one family survived.
Inca
During the period of time called the Pachachama people became very evil. They got so busy coming up with and performing evil deeds they neglected the gods. Only those in the high Andes remained uncorrupted. Two brothers who lived in the highlands noticed their llamas acting strangely. They asked the llamas why and were told that the stars had told the llamas that a great flood was coming. This flood would destroy all the life on earth. The brothers took their families and flocks into a cave on the high mountains. It started to rain and continued for four months. As the water rose the mountain grew keeping its top above the water. Eventually the rain stopped and the waters receded. The mountain returned to its original height. The shepherds repopulated the earth. The llamas remembered the flood and that is why they prefer to live in the highland areas.
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Faith 
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Message 56 of 92 (353999)
10-03-2006 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by jar
10-03-2006 6:45 PM


Re: I've already given the support for this point
Of course, they vary a great deal. They are local myths, not like the Biblical story except in some of the main points, and not expected to be. It is the main points that tie them together. That's the whole point. We ASSUME that human memory is fallible, and that only the Biblical account came down intact. The Babylonian account is the one most similar to it, suggesting that it was among the peoples of that region that it was most accurately preserved, while details got lost and became tied to tribal identity the farther people moved out from the area where Noah and family debarked.
I cannot research the subject further for a few days yet, but yes, that site is just a collection of stories and does need to be verified. There are many many links to other sources given there, however, only I won't risk going to them. I followed a link earlier and the computer froze as it does 90% of the time when I do that. Why hasn't anyone else supplied information? Why not you?

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