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Topic: Can Evolution explain this? (Re: The biological evolution of religious belief)
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 56 of 91 (305098)
04-18-2006 10:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 4 by Percy 11-17-2004 7:18 PM
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There is another world. this is not materialistic.
The basis and origin of religious belief lies in the inexplicable natural world. Certainly not. Animals have no yearning for the supernatural. Only the human beings have it. What is conscience? This is not conscious awareness. How did this evolve? The question is what is driving serial rapists and murderers? What was behind the man who wanted to eat the body of the 10 year old girl? What was the driving force behind Mother Teresa's sacrifices? These are beyond naturalism. Intelligence is beyond the physical materialistic world. If there was no light, then obviously, there was no need for an eye. This message has been edited by inkorrekt, 04-18-2006 10:54 PM
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 62 of 91 (306335)
04-24-2006 7:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 57 by anglagard 04-19-2006 1:17 AM
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Re: About to explode
Cats leave food for their "masters" (hard to believe any cat thinks it has a master, in the way I understand it from the many I have owned). Maybe it is for all three reasons presented. As a gift, as a learning opportunity, and for random fun. Maybe, depending on the cat, it could be for all reasons at the same time. Who says the cats have to have only one reason for their behavior? Cats are not alone. Ducks are very special. They pair with each other. After this, they never depart till they die. The mother duck does not eat till all the babies have eaten. If no food is left, then the mother duck stays hungry. These are known as animal instincts. Maternal and paternal instincts. This is not the same as consciousness. What you are referring to is self awareness. This is not the same as the quest for God inside the human soul.
Any mutation is theoretically possible, however, any mutation that requires an energy expenditure better be able to justify itself in the struggle for survival. Can you explain why did the bird flu virus mutate? It is still mutating. Was it because of struggle for survival?
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 65 of 91 (307811)
04-29-2006 8:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 63 by anglagard 04-28-2006 9:33 PM
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Re: About to explode
Very interesting explanation. So, in this situation, Survival of the fittest is the virus and not the host.
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 68 of 91 (307988)
04-30-2006 4:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by anglagard 04-28-2006 11:54 PM
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Re: About to explode
After all, a simple dissection shows that the brains of mammals are wrinkled, crenulated if you prefer, just like humans. No doubt about this at all.I have dissected hundreds of rat brain and even a monkey brain. This is one of the similarities between human brain and even a rat brain. Such convoluted structures do not have anything to do with the higher functions of the brain.Animals can be trained. This is learned behaviour. An animal does not have the ability to distinguish between right and wrong; Good and evil. Animals are driven by instincts whereas humans can examine facts and make conscious choices. Rationality and reasoning are unique to human beings. This message has been edited by inkorrekt, 04-30-2006 04:56 PM
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 72 of 91 (308620)
05-02-2006 9:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 69 by anglagard 04-30-2006 9:28 PM
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Re: About to explode
My basic research indicates these pronouncements are debatable This is the first time, I am hearing something of this nature. I am really curious. I guess it was few years ago that some neurologist wrote an article in Times. He reduced man's relationship with God to a basic stimulus-reaponse phenomenon and he even ascribes this as a God center in brain. In other words, he wrote that the ecstatic God experience of some people can be simulated by electrical stimulation of the God center in brain. Well, there must be solid controls and very well designed Experiments. I need to see the results.
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 73 of 91 (334338)
07-22-2006 6:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 71 by kuresu 05-01-2006 11:20 PM
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Why are we here?
Answer to this is we were the products of natural selection and random mutations. That means, we just happened. there is no purpose for our existence.We live and when our time is up, we die. that is all.
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Message 76 of 91 (334593)
07-23-2006 6:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 75 by ramoss 07-22-2006 8:58 PM
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Re: Why are we here?
We have a need to explain things. For whatever reason, we want to know why we exist, what our purpose in life is, and why does the sun always come up in the morning and go to bed at night? Well, I was playing the devil's advocate. Do we evolve into Gods? Are there 70 virgins waiting for us in Paradise? Do we end up as nothing?
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Re: Why are we here?
1)Go for that one single woman wherever she is. 2) My understanding is that Evolution is a continuous process resulting in extinction of existing species and dedvelopment of new species. According to this, what will man become? Will he evolve into a new species? or he will become extinct?
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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6103 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: 02-04-2006
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Finally, I am finding some logical answer
This is the first time someone pointed this one out. Yes, one thing is certain. If there was a beginning of human events, then it must culminate somewhere. Yes, the current events such as Korea and Iran building nuclear weapons can lead into world catastrophy. The USA entered the second world war to preserve humanity from the German occupation. The 3rd world war is already at hand. The islamofascist threat is real and it can happen anytime.Nuclear weapons in the hands of madmen is very dangerous. It makes sense to me that there will be a nuclear holocast and human civilization will come to an end. Edited by AdminNWR, : off topic
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