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Wounded King
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Message 28 of 53 (357393)
10-19-2006 2:31 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Syamsu
10-18-2006 5:23 PM


Re: Determinism and indeterminacy
And physicists talk about strangeness, charm and even truth and beauty as properties of sub-atomic particles?
as people generally would do in any religion
Or indeed as people might do in general conversation.
Any rationale for how this can count as specifically 'religious-language'? It doesn't seem in the least bit religious to me. The only word I can see that you might make even a semi-credible argument for would be morality and I would be interested in seeing your example of where this has been subverted through its use in 'science-theories'.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 32 of 53 (357451)
10-19-2006 11:52 AM
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10-19-2006 11:19 AM


Re: Determinism and indeterminacy
If I put strange and charm into the arxiv physics archive I get 223 results hardly concepts not understood, or used at all, by scientists.
Similarly searching for 'beauty quark' gives me 28 hits including...
Measurement of open beauty production at HERA in the D* muon final state
Truth is the companion property to beauty in terms of quarks, the more prosaic use the terms 'top' and 'bottom'. Admittedly I can only find 4 Arxiv references to Truth quarks.
Evolution of morality is discussed in Darwin's "Descent of Man", and from there on endlessly by Darwinists.
Discussing the evolution of morality is very different from co-opting the word morality and using it out of context in a scientific theory. This sounds very much as if it is in exactly the usual context.
All you really seem to be saying is that if science comments on anything about which religion already holds an opinion the science becomes equivalent to religion itself, which is a pretty nonsensical argument, especially in those cases where the views held by the religious are patently wrong.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 47 of 53 (357903)
10-21-2006 6:51 AM
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10-21-2006 5:11 AM


Re: Who loves knowledge about freedom?
You don't know what words mean, do you?
TTFN,
WK
Edited by Wounded King, : No reason given.

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Wounded King
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Message 49 of 53 (358007)
10-21-2006 6:25 PM
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10-21-2006 5:48 PM


Re: Who loves knowledge about freedom?
Is word salad more like a fruit salad or a greek salad? Its certainly not much on the taste front.
TTFN,
WK

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