Hovind busted, finally

So Subbie, you think you're apprised enough on tax law to do what Hovind's been doing for decades and remain free doing it as long as he has? I don't know. I'm asking.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

So cheating is okay if you don't get caught?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Being able to evade prosecution for a while says absolutely nothing about his knowledge of law, tax or otherwise.I can only base my assessment of Hovind's knowledge of the law on the statements he has purportedly made. If you have better information than has been posted in this thread, that information might cause me to reconsider my position. However, assuming he has actually said the things attributed to him in this thread, I can say without fear of error that I know considerably more about law than Hovind does.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

You can go to jail for that. I certainly don't evade tax.I think you are a little confused here. There is an important difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion.Tax avoidance is a matter of organizing your affairs so as to reduce the amount of tax you are required to pay. Many people do that, and it is quite legal. Tax evasion is failing to pay the taxes for which you are legally liable. That is not legal, and even violates the teachings of Jesus ("render unto Caesar ...").

I can't answer for Subbie, but Hovind doesn't need to know jack about tax law when he afford to pay someone to think for him. As you can see - Hovind's basic defence has been tried recently...by the man that has represented him.

Here are some choice links to Hovind defenders courtesy of Panda's Thumb:Page Not Found - YecHeadquartersArchives – Uncommon DescentIt appears the saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend is gospel to some.

As usual, Jar, you either spin or miss my point, being that if he got by for decades he likely was not breaking the law. Otherwise the law would've likely busted him long ago.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Just so the audience does not think I am spinning your comments, I will just let that quote of yours stand.LOL

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So if I murder someone and no one ever catches me, does that mean I didn't do it? Do you think the justice system is infallible?Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

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Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

You make sense there, NWR. Ok I avoid paying any taxes legally when I can and maybe, I say maybe, that's what he was doing. I'm just going by how long it's taken him to get to trial. I know there's a lot of Americans who've done this over the years and somehow gotten by via manipulation of the laws. It's complicated I guess and you gotta know what your doing so I don't try this at home.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

You really ought not make such sweeping statements in a field where you know nothing.It can take years, even decades sometimes, to make a tax case against someone, for a variety of reasons. Not to mention the fact that generally federal prosecutors are a very conservative bunch. They don't bring a case until they are certain they can get a conviction. Finally, take into account that, as things go, this sort of nut isn't that high on their priority list. There are dangerous people they need to catch quickly. There are also some people that are more likely to disappear.You are of course free to assume he's innocent as long as you want. But don't pretend that there's any reason to suppose he's innocent.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin

I sincerely hope you do not. Legal methods of avoiding tax are called "tax avoidance". Tax evasion is, by definition, using illegal methods to get out of paying taxes. It was not, I think, a Pharisee who gave the judgement: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". They will. Would you care to wager on the outcome? Kent Hovind's knowledge of the law has got him on trial for over fifty charges of fraud. My knowledge of the law, though not perfect, seems to have kept me out of such scrapes.Kent Hovind's supposed knowledge of the law has also led him to conclude that he is not, in law, a person; that dollars are not, in law, money; and that the States of the Union are not, in law, part of the United States.I know you're a creationist, but surely even you can see something wrong with this.

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I'm quite sure Hovind knows more law than anyone of his accusers here, having used it all these years

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If that's true then why did he try to defend himself by arguing that he didn't know that he was breaking the law ?

Hovind trial delayed againAww ...Mind you, if I was representing the Hovinds, I'd be ill.

I still don't know why he is not being treated as a Criminal Enterprise under the RICO statutes.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion