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Author Topic:   George Bush leads us into the world of Kafka.
joshua221 
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Message 141 of 150 (357762)
10-20-2006 1:58 PM


Jar.
You're entire life has been within the village in "The Castle".
I am 3/4ths through the book, and after finishing a chapter dealing with the father of Olga attempting to get forgiveness for Amalia - to fix his family, have realized the truth about all of our existences within this nation, and within this continent, within this earth of humans that not only exploit but imprison us. We don't even see it. Well none of you do, do you?
hahaha
Can't you see that you are inside of the village?
You can't excape it. Everyone here is inside of it. Haha, it's so absurd that it's hilarious. It's hysterical. We have no freedom, hahahahahhahaha, hahhahahahhahaha.
We are the village sir. We cannot be free. It is all over. Can't you see it??
hahahahahahahahaq
It's done. There is no freedom, we are over sir. We are over...........................................................
Edited by AdminJar, : take out some stupid periods.

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joshua221 
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Message 142 of 150 (359161)
10-26-2006 8:35 PM


Is it worth having a system, as our society is and functions than to have supposed anarchy?
There would not be anarchy. If a group of people had a common and relative understanding about what is good and right, then their would be not be anarchy. There would be education, and working for food, and survival, there would be freedom, but there would also be restriction based upon one's love for the others in the society, and one's committment to making life wonderful for all of those within that society.
We would not be limited by rules and regulations for others to exploit, and gain from it. We would not have to fear a "government" of workings which we do not know.
When we are born, and old enough to understand, we would be taught that society is for a just, and beautiful cause. That the work, and the sacrifice is a necessity for the ones that we care about, and for nothing else.
There wouldn't be corruption. There would be righteousness, and books. There would be music, and art. There would be the best things, there would be science. But would there be technology? And is it a bad thing if there weren't? If there weren't space shuttles, and cars, computers and televisions. Would we as humans be worse off? I answer with a resounding NO. We would be fine. We would transcend. We would know that we exist. We would know that a God exists. We would know that we must strive to learn, and strive for what is true. We would know to be like God.

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joshua221 
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Message 145 of 150 (359172)
10-26-2006 9:03 PM


lol

  
joshua221 
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Message 148 of 150 (359182)
10-26-2006 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by nator
10-26-2006 9:05 PM


What if everyone agreed that it was "good and right" that girls shouldn't be educated because their place was in the home making babies?
Everyone would not come to such a decision. You forget that within a society such as this, there are no motives which are for power. Why would a person living in such a community want to control, would they not realize that this is a society filled with those whom you strive to serve.
A torturous device as the one described has no place in a society of educated individuals who see freedom as a precious asset.
An easy approach to my argument of an ideal society, would be to say that humans would want power, and material. That humans are corrupt creatures, capable of the greatest evils. Within a community such as this, where those who live struggle for the benefit of the entire community, where their lives are dedicated to the society, not just themselves, there would be no atrocities as described.
You say it is idealism, but it is apparent that if humans were together in such a system, they would realize that to harm another is only to harm oneself. Values would be instilled in them from not only education, but from the way their society actually functions. It would be the best reminder to do right.
Circumstances would arise where an individual would steal, or even worse. The individual would have to be taught the workings of their system. It would have to be apparent that an individual who understands would do no such things.

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joshua221 
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Message 149 of 150 (359321)
10-27-2006 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by MangyTiger
10-26-2006 9:28 PM


The scariest thing is that in the last couple of years I've seen interviews on TV over here with groups who actually do advocate this. Mostly they were Christian groups in the US, although there were a couple of Islamic groups as well.
scary
scary
scary
scary
scary

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