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Author Topic:   George Bush leads us into the world of Kafka.
Taz
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Message 4 of 150 (349341)
09-15-2006 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
09-15-2006 1:55 PM


First, look at the story in this link.
Even when after everything was cleared up, charges were still filed against the man, given that the charges were later dropped.
To humiliate and threaten a man like that, making him go to court to defend himself for simply having a penis pump and a foreign accent, is mind boggling. If this isn't an indication of a police state being born, I don't know what is.
But like always, the American people would rather start seeing very obvious signs of their freedom taken away, like people getting executed in the streets, before they start to do something. Indeed, fear has made people given up their freedom.

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Taz
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Message 7 of 150 (349356)
09-15-2006 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Nutcase
09-15-2006 2:55 PM


That's a weird comment coming from a nutcase

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Taz
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Message 17 of 150 (349609)
09-16-2006 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by crashfrog
09-15-2006 5:02 PM


Re: What are we supposed to do about it?
crashfrog writes:
What, exactly, do you want us to do?
Stop voting for the guy and his minions.
I mean it's not like we have legitimate elections here anymore. And that huge military that's being waved around to oppress people around the world, or whatever? What makes you think we're not aware that's a weapon that can be turned against us, as well?
But apparently many Americans aren't aware of the danger.
Bush didn't exactly ask the people's permission to go to war, remember? He told us that he was going to, for reasons that he lied about, and then he did.
And yet the majority of the American voters appeared to support him.
The president's popularity is so low they don't even poll it anymore. As if it mattered - the president doesn't listen to polls. He says so all the time, and nobody seems to think that's weird. Elected by the people, but he doesn't think he's under an obligation to consider their will?
That's what everyone said before the 2004 election.
I've seen what happens when the American people get out into the streets. Firehoses, jackboots, pepper spray, and batons. People "disppearing" in the system, like they did during the RNC in 2004.
It's sad for me to suspect that the people who care enough about these things are in the minority.
I'm sorry. Before all the rest of you nations get all up in our grill about "the American sheeple", or whatever, consider very carefully that functional self-governance in this country came to an end in 2000. I simply don't see what responsibility the rest of you expect us to take on these issues. The days when the American government enacted the will of the people were long, long ago.
It's simple. Make sure his ilk won't get the majority vote next time. In the mean time, I guess we'll have to endure seeing more people get humiliated and finantially drained for having foreign accents and embarrassing objects in their possessions.
What I really wanted to point out last time was that most people don't seem to realize the humiliation and financial burden the poor man had to go through. He had to get a lawyer to defend against a charge that never should have been filed in the first place. What's worse, he's an Iraqi.
I shared this story to quite a few people and they all seem to laugh at the situation as if it's the funniest thing they've heard. There's nothing funny about it. For a few weeks, this man's rights were stripped away. His financial resources were drained. His reputation among his friends and family was shattered. And that's not mentioning the psychological pain he had to suffer when he realized that he could have gone to prison for 3 freakin' years for possessing a penis pump and having a foreign accent.
And to give you an idea of how naive Americans are these days in regard to the political situation, even after I pointed out the above assessment of the poor man's situation, most people still laughed and said "oh, well..."
I seriously honestly don't have much faith in the American public. This is one of the reasons why I have been questioning the efficiency and effectiveness of the democratic process.
Edited by gasby, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 18 of 150 (349610)
09-16-2006 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Chiroptera
09-16-2006 1:38 PM


Re: What are we supposed to do about it?
Chiroptera writes:
I can certainly see Tal giving the orders to shoot with a certain look of satisfaction on his face.
Am I missing something? Who's Tal?
Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 43 of 150 (349862)
09-17-2006 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Hyroglyphx
09-17-2006 12:25 PM


Re: A general reply
nemesis writes:
My solution: Accept Jesus.
When was the last time you heard about a terrorist that was gay? I must, therefore, conclude that gay people are incapable of being terrorists. Therefore, we should promote gayism more. Perhaps a few indoctrination classes here and there in our school systems should do it.

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Taz
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Message 44 of 150 (349864)
09-17-2006 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by crashfrog
09-16-2006 5:31 PM


Re: What are we supposed to do about it?
crashfrog writes:
You don't get it yet. People aren't. George Bush has never won a presidental election.
I must admit that I do not know enough details about politics like I should. Please be more specific!
Your blame, as I said, is very much misplaced. What on Earth do you think the American public have to do with the policies of the American government?
I'll leave the alternate options to the experts.

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Taz
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Message 128 of 150 (351377)
09-22-2006 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by Quetzal
09-22-2006 3:34 PM


Re: Going It Alone
Q writes:
You're not a military history buff like me.
Do you think that Britain started terror bombing or Germany did in WW2?

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
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Message 143 of 150 (359166)
10-26-2006 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by joshua221
10-20-2006 1:58 PM


Aren't you a little young to be on drugs?
Uncalled for. Take a 24 hour break. AdminJar
Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 144 of 150 (359168)
10-26-2006 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by joshua221
10-26-2006 8:35 PM


prophex writes:
There wouldn't be corruption. There would be righteousness, and books. There would be music, and art. There would be the best things, there would be science. But would there be technology? And is it a bad thing if there weren't? If there weren't space shuttles, and cars, computers and televisions. Would we as humans be worse off? I answer with a resounding NO. We would be fine. We would transcend. We would know that we exist. We would know that a God exists. We would know that we must strive to learn, and strive for what is true. We would know to be like God.
Yeah, and we'd be burning witches and putting intellectuals under house arrest like the good old times when everyone was either god-fearing or roasted.

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