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Author Topic:   The consequences of "Evolution is false"
Dr Adequate
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Message 139 of 210 (359673)
10-29-2006 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Hyroglyphx
10-29-2006 1:01 PM


Re: "The same evidence"?
Yes, it can, and it does all the time. For instance Ernst Mayr once stated that macroevolution is just a magnification of microevolution. There is zero hard evidence to support the assertion. None. The entire theory is supported by inference and circumstantial evidence, at best. And yet, people interpret this to be truth all the time.
This bears no relation to anything I posted.
In particular, it has nothing to do with the quotation from my post which preceded it.
"A piece of evidence which contradicted the predictions of the theory of evolution could not be "reinterpreted" so that it did. Evidence is evidence."
You just seem to have recited a random piece of fundie dogma, rather than actually replying to my post.
That was hyperbole. Obviously no evolutionist gives up looking for missing links. Even the staunchest creationist knows this. It was hyperbole for effect.
Petitio principii.
I won't disagree with you that he shouldn't have said it, but I highly doubt it spawned from ignorance.
And his claim that no intermediate forms have been found?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 153 of 210 (359832)
10-30-2006 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by Rob
10-30-2006 9:52 AM


Re: Sorry to bug you, but...
I don't think so, and yes, if scientists can believe that, then I think they are in desperation (even unconsciously) wallowing in ignorance and half-truths.
They wouldn't be the first to notice a problem for their 'life-style' if they are wrong. And any self respecting android will fight tooth and nail to deny that he is not the superior life form in this universe.
Self respect... a subtle yet misunderstood power called pride!
Well, that's one explanation of why scientists disagree with you about science, and why you believe them to be "wallowing in ignorance and half-truths".
I can think of another explanation. My explanation involves scientists knowing more about science than you do. This explanation seems to be confirmed by the factual errors and errors of reasoning in your posts.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 161 of 210 (360026)
10-31-2006 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by Rob
10-31-2006 1:09 AM


Re: To answer some of your other questions
Of course not! Tremendous discoveries have been made along the way. But none of it confirms evolution. Rather, it confirms natural selection as a real process that takes place after the origin.
This is just weird.
The theory of evolution has been confirmed by a myriad pieces of evidence.
However, the theory of evolution merely tells us what life does, just as the theory of gravity tells us what matter does, and the theory of electricity tells us what electrons do.
The theory of evolution does not attempt to explain how life came to be, just as the theory of gravity does not explain how matter came to be, and the theory of electricity does not explain how electrons came to be.
Those are different questions.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 165 of 210 (360085)
10-31-2006 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Rob
10-31-2006 9:53 AM


You asked:
On what basis do you assert that there is any purpose at all?
On what basis do you assert that there is none? Affirming a negative is pretty basic philosophical incompetance. We have no choice but to infer purpose.
Or to put it another way:
You asked:
On what basis do you assert that there are any flying pigs at all?
On what basis do you assert that there is none? Affirming a negative is pretty basic philosophical incompetance. We have no choice but to infer flying pigs.

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