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Author Topic:   The consequences of "Evolution is false"
anglagard
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Message 61 of 210 (359360)
10-27-2006 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by joshua221
10-27-2006 4:12 PM


Re: What other choices are there?
Prophex asserts:
Creationists can and do respect the efforts of science, and would never think that scientists and scholars are imcompetent, much less liars.
Perhaps not all 'creationists,' but I would say that Young Earth Creationists (YECs) must think 99.85% of all geoscientists and bioscientists are either incompetent and/or liars. Otherwise, why would they denounce their theories without even bothering to rationally examine the tremendous amount of evidence for such theories.

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anglagard
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Message 83 of 210 (359422)
10-28-2006 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Buzsaw
10-27-2006 11:15 PM


Re: No creationist but....
Buzsaw writes:
Deception is powerful but in the end will be overcome with truth.
Which truth would that be? Is it Hindu creationism that holds unchanging life and Earth for 691 billion years? Is it Islamic creationism? Is it ID that agrees to an old Earth like I understand Behe states?
Or is it the gospel according to Buzsaw?
Where does it say in the Bible the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
What would you creationists and your strange bedfellows do without evolution to bedevil? Engage in those old fashioned religious wars and witch burnings? How about a nice plague evolution science would not be allowed to marginalize?
Sometimes I think some people around here hate science more than they love God.

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anglagard
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Message 99 of 210 (359498)
10-28-2006 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Hyroglyphx
10-28-2006 1:27 PM


Re: No creationist but....
NJ writes:
As indictable it is to say that creationist tailor the scientific evidence to conform to their core beliefs, many evolutionists are guilty of the exact same bigotry, only in the opposite direction.
Hope you are not too disillusioned to provide some examples other than Piltdown Man. I am familiar with wild speculations but not so much 'tailored' evidence. Would be fascinated to see some examples, especially in the geosciences.
If you or others have enough examples of blatantly manufactured evidence on either side, it would prove an interesting new thread IMO.
Thanks for such a reasonable post that evenhandedly states neither side of this debate is always free of unethical practices.
signed as always, your ToE-supporting adversary.
ABE - upon reflection, there was that faked Chinese bird fossil and shennanigans at Paluxy just for starters.
Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

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anglagard
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Message 101 of 210 (359505)
10-28-2006 2:28 PM
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10-28-2006 2:23 PM


Re: No creationist but....
Of course I do not disagree. One interesting result of examining various frauds regardless of source would be by whom and how they were eventually exposed.

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anglagard
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Message 144 of 210 (359751)
10-30-2006 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Rob
10-30-2006 1:23 AM


Re: Sorry to bug you, but...
Rob, are you referring to evolution, which is change in species over time, or abiogenesis, which is about the origin of life from non living materials? One could easily believe in evolution as the way life changes now and in the past yet still believe God/aliens/comets etc. caused the origin of life on Earth.
They are two different things, abiogenesis and evolution. I think the two concepts are often confused.

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