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Author Topic:   Your eternal destination: you decide.
Phat
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Message 16 of 246 (360459)
11-01-2006 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by iano
11-01-2006 10:40 AM


Settling The Books
Iano writes:
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you? And why do you think he would send you there?
IF God exists as I believe He does, I would get some sort of meeting with Him. I believe that everyone gets this chance...be they believers or no. At that time, God and i would come to some sort of an agreement. In my case, I would surrender and let my destiny be up to Him.

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Message 17 of 246 (360460)
11-01-2006 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by iceage
11-01-2006 12:40 PM


Re: Only atheists go to heaven.
Iceage seems to be shivering.

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RickJB
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Message 18 of 246 (360463)
11-01-2006 1:02 PM
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11-01-2006 10:40 AM


Why should I worship an entity that would threaten me with punishment as a consequence of not doing so?
One ticket to Hell please.

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Message 19 of 246 (360465)
11-01-2006 1:04 PM
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11-01-2006 10:40 AM


iano writes:
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you?
Would He send me where I want to go?
I think that spending eternity with a bunch of fundies, churchies, YECies and faith-onlies would be hell. I'd rather be with the ones who "did unto others".

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Message 20 of 246 (360467)
11-01-2006 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by iano
11-01-2006 10:40 AM


Salvation Meme
Sorry for the duplicate post folks.
Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible can well exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the Bible can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't)
Iano. The Catholics believe that there no salvation outside the church (ummm that is their church).
It would be shame if you came so close only to sit right next CK swelting in the heat. Have you considered to cover you bet and join the Catholic church?
If you believe the things you believe then it is not too far a stretch to accept that the Catholic church may be right in their view.

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Message 21 of 246 (360476)
11-01-2006 1:41 PM
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11-01-2006 10:40 AM


i'm not catholic, so if they're right then i'm going to hell.
the jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus wasn't god (insert also jews or muslims here) and i'm not sure so i'm sure i'm guilty of a sufficient amount of idolatry. so hell.
i don't live in a box and i ask questions and i have sex and i don't worship the bible or james dobson, so i must worship a false god according to the ordinary christian fundies and even some of the more mainline christians, so hell there too.
i can't fucking win.
however. my god says i am his and he is mine. also, i don't even know where you got this idea of hell from anyways.

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iano
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Message 22 of 246 (360482)
11-01-2006 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by subbie
11-01-2006 12:09 PM


Here's one for you, mate:
Even the most rabid [Christian] will accept that [Allah] can well exist. They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the [Q'uran] can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't)
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think [Allah] would send you? And why do you think he would send you there.
Well I'm a rabid Christian so lets have a look see. I know Allah can't exist when I know God does. Someone who cannot exist cannot send me anywhere.

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iano
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Message 23 of 246 (360483)
11-01-2006 2:13 PM
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11-01-2006 1:10 PM


Re: Salvation Meme
If you believe the things you believe then it is not too far a stretch to accept that the Catholic church may be right in their view.
Too far a stretch? You've got to be kidding me
But I was baptised into RC as an infant apparently and made my first holy communion and my confirmation. So far so covered. Until this...
Mortal sin
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings,
These sins constitute grave matter, and if they are committed willingly and with full consent, constitute mortal sin.
I won't tell you which one(s) I committed but I certainly did so willingly and with full consent (on both our parts). Seems I've burnt my bridges with RC then.
{AbE} in my defence however, I would submit that I was drunk at the time. Oops - just read the list in full
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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Message 24 of 246 (360484)
11-01-2006 2:16 PM
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11-01-2006 10:40 AM


I decide
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you?
He would send me to a place like Taiwan, only with cleaner air and wider sidewalks.
And why do you think he would send you there?
Because he likes my company and knows I would appreciate it.
___

Archer
All species are transitional.

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Message 25 of 246 (360486)
11-01-2006 2:23 PM
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11-01-2006 10:40 AM


iano writes:
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you? And why do you think he would send you there.
Something that does not exist cannot send me to any places that do not exist

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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iano
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Message 26 of 246 (360488)
11-01-2006 2:26 PM
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11-01-2006 2:23 PM


Something that does not exist cannot send me to any places that do not exist
This is true. Could he exist?

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Message 27 of 246 (360497)
11-01-2006 3:04 PM
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11-01-2006 2:26 PM


iano writes:
This is true. Could he exist?
Have you ever read the poem 'The God-Maker, Man' by Don Marquis? It's very good.
To answer question , since all human gods are a creation of man, no god(s) exist.
Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : grammer

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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Message 28 of 246 (360512)
11-01-2006 4:11 PM
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11-01-2006 3:04 PM


Have you ever read the poem 'The God-Maker, Man' by Don Marquis?
Ah. Someone else who studies Archyology.
well says i pete
bill s plays are highly
esteemed to this day
is that so says pete
poor mutt little he would
care what poor bill wanted
was to be a poet

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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iano
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Message 29 of 246 (360517)
11-01-2006 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by alacrity fitzhugh
11-01-2006 3:04 PM


To answer question , since all human gods are a creation of man, no god(s) exist.
What about non-human God.
{AbE}
Have you ever read the poem 'The God-Maker, Man' by Don Marquis? It's very good.
No. I never got poetry I'm afraid. I got other things. Can I suppose it asserts in beautiful fashion that which you do above?
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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Message 30 of 246 (360523)
11-01-2006 4:57 PM
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11-01-2006 4:11 PM


quote:
well says i pete
bill s plays are highly
esteemed to this day
is that so says pete
poor mutt little he would
care what poor bill wanted
was to be a poet
i once was a vers libre bard
but i died and my soul went into the body of a cockroach
it has given me a new outlook on life
jar writes:
Ah. Someone else who studies Archyology
Who could not love the writtings of a cockroach with that humor.

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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