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Faith 
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Message 16 of 302 (361252)
11-03-2006 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by iano
11-03-2006 7:21 PM


I heard mushrooms give some a really bad case of nausea, but in any case nobody offered any and I didn't go out of my way to find them.
I can brag about having met Timothy Leary though maybe. I know he took all that stuff. An affable Irishman Tim, wearing beads and on his sixth or seventh "wife" at the time. My ex had been mentored by him in the psych dept at Cal.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 17 of 302 (361254)
11-03-2006 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Faith
11-03-2006 7:18 PM


still sometimes it trips me up
An unfortuate turn of phrase.
But I know what you mean. Drugs and a propensity for violence where two of the things which evaporated in my case. But there is a shed load of other stuff I wouldn't mind being rid of.

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Faith 
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Message 18 of 302 (361257)
11-03-2006 7:29 PM
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11-03-2006 7:26 PM


Drugs never got a strong enough hold on me to be anything that trips me up any more, fortunately, but yes, if we live long enough before God grabs us to rack up a lengthy roster of any kind of sin, it's not easy to get it out of your system, it's always lying in wait.

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Message 19 of 302 (361258)
11-03-2006 7:29 PM
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11-03-2006 7:25 PM


LSD in another form more or less. And free between august-october in Ireland. Golf courses are good places to ..er..trip across them. I'd start on the first hole of golf hitting about 1 over par. By the 18th hole I'd be 10 over par. It's hard to play golf with a club that looks for all the world like its made of rubber...

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Message 20 of 302 (361263)
11-03-2006 7:40 PM
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11-03-2006 7:06 PM


quote:
Thing is, oh prettiest one, we all hold up a front behind which we hide our stuff.
Sure.
But I don't try to make everybody else abide by a moral code, under force of law.
I'm not criticizing these people for hiding that they are gay drug abusers, or for running up large gambling debts, or for defrauding their church supporters, etc., etc., etc.
It's the deep, deep hypocrisy that I criticize them for.
Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 21 of 302 (361264)
11-03-2006 7:41 PM
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11-03-2006 7:29 PM


You just pick them growing in the grass of the golf course over there? No nausea though? Yes, golf clubs like rubber. Walls made of everflowing liquid, floors that won't stay flat, that ripple into waves, mound up and dip down into wells, that you have to crawl across because you can't stand up on them, air that is really thick multicolored gelatin that swirls around anything moving through it, in which a liquid forming-and-reforming face might appear without its body, inquiring as to your state of mind, to which you can only inanely and insanely laugh, and then disappear again into the colors, light bulbs that shoot crystalline light patterns in all directions, quite beautiful though, somebody's heart sitting on a windowsill beating away and then suddenly exploding, everything looking pink and green for days, and neon signs burning an unearthly electric blue for years afterward.

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Message 22 of 302 (361265)
11-03-2006 7:45 PM
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11-03-2006 7:41 PM


quote:
Yes, golf clubs like rubber. Walls made of everflowing liquid, floors that won't stay flat, that ripple into waves, mound up and dip down into wells, that you have to crawl across because you can't stand up on them, air that is really thick multicolored gelatin that swirls around anything moving through it, in which a liquid forming-and-reforming face might appear without its body, inquiring as to your state of mind, to which you can only inanely and insanely laugh, and then disappear again into the colors, light bulbs that shoot crystalline light patterns in all directions, quite beautiful though, somebody's heart sitting on a windowsill beating away and then suddenly exploding, everything looking pink and green for days, and neon signs burning an unearthly electric blue for years afterward.
...feeling like you are able to talk to God and that you are hearing everything He says...
It's amazing what sorts of things the brain can manufacture given the right stimulous, isn't it?

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Message 23 of 302 (361266)
11-03-2006 7:45 PM
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11-03-2006 7:21 PM


What's wrong with calling out to God when you were in desperate need? seems an ideal time to call out!

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Faith 
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Message 24 of 302 (361267)
11-03-2006 7:46 PM
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11-03-2006 7:40 PM


It's the deep, deep hypocrisy that I criticize them for.
I don't think you know what the word means.

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nator
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Message 25 of 302 (361268)
11-03-2006 7:48 PM
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11-03-2006 7:46 PM


It's the deep, deep hypocrisy that I criticize them for.
quote:
I don't think you know what the word means.
Which word?

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Faith 
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Message 26 of 302 (361269)
11-03-2006 7:48 PM
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11-03-2006 7:45 PM


It's amazing what sorts of things the brain can manufacture given the right stimulous, isn't it?
I didn't even start to think about God during the LSD years, not for oh 16 to 18 years after that, many years removed from all that sixties stuff. Not that you care. Facts don't interest you if you think you can hang an accusation on some admission or other.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 27 of 302 (361270)
11-03-2006 7:54 PM
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11-03-2006 7:23 PM


Well then, why did Rev Haggerd "confess" only when he was forced to?
Why do these "confessions" only come out when they are caught, not before?
Cause he sinned in that way too. Sin generally leads to hiding the sin. It's our past sins we freely confess, and sometimes by God's grace we can confess the recent ones too, but the flesh wants to hide it all.
The guy fell hard and he got caught and he's now defrocked. God having mercy on him really I think, since if he'd gotten away with it he might never get back to God. This way he has a chance.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 28 of 302 (361271)
11-03-2006 7:55 PM
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11-03-2006 7:10 PM


um ...
... exactly what didn't he swallow?

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Faith 
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Message 29 of 302 (361272)
11-03-2006 7:56 PM
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11-03-2006 7:21 PM


Word in your ear sis. Quit the confessions otherwise folk will get to thinking the reason why we cried out to God was because we were in desparate need.
Fact is I was, but weird thing is I didn't know it. When I finally found God I just thought I'd discovered something amazingly great, I didn't know I NEEDED Him, not right away.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 30 of 302 (361273)
11-03-2006 7:56 PM
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11-03-2006 4:07 PM


Massages and meth
He only wanted a massage...from a gay hooker.
Don't forget that he also threw the meth away after purchasing it........... *cough-b.s.-cough*

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