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Archer Opteryx
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Message 93 of 302 (361430)
11-04-2006 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by iano
11-03-2006 4:35 PM


a study in contrasts
Iano judging Jar for hoping a convicted tax evader gets the maximum sentence:
Jar, your looking more like the sickest of psycos with every elapsing minute. God have mercy (and I do say it with extreme difficulty) on your black soul.
{AbE} This is it folks. We've been over it all over the years. The fine intellectual arguments, the debate, the argument, the points sharply tuned, the rebuttals equally so. To arrive at the above.
This is the blackest, most ugly statement I have seen in all my time here bar none. We all know what we are capable of and if we were 'caught' doing it then 288 years would have to apply to us to. You either know that or you don't - I cannot help you there.
This is sin demonstrating how vile it is. The only thing is that you can see it too. Don't concentrat on who said it. Concentrate on what was said. I don't condemn Jar for saying what he said. He just brought the pimple of ugliness that is sin to the yellow, puss- filled surface that allows us all to see it (sin) for what it is. Look at it: are you repelled? If you are (and I dearly hope you are) then what is said is the most convincing thing I have seen here for the argument for sin. The Bible says that it has infected you, me, Faith and all the rest of mankind
You must be repelled. If you are you now have a glimpse as to why God is repelled. If you are not, then God have mercy on your soul too.
iano judging an evangelical pastor for suspected drug use, adultery, solicitation of a homosexual prostitute, and hypocrisy:
A Christian turns (I suspect) out to be a sinner. Big deal...
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Archer
All species are transitional.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 95 of 302 (361439)
11-04-2006 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by RAZD
11-04-2006 9:21 AM


Re: nemesis_juggernaut's moral standard refuted
RAZD:
If nemesis_juggernaut's hypothesis were true then there should be fewer christians in jail than in the general population, and there isn't: there may even be more.
If nemesis_juggernaut's hypothesis were true the USA, where most people profess Christianity, would exhibit far less violent crime than Taiwan or Japan, where the majority observe Eastern religions or are agnostics and atheists.
Bet the house on it: that one isn't true.
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Archer
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 109 of 302 (361462)
11-04-2006 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Hyroglyphx
11-04-2006 11:30 AM


Re: standards
Haggard won't be hung by his own standard, but God's.
No difference.
quote:
For with the judgement you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
Matthew 7.2 (NRSV)
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Archer
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 165 of 302 (361706)
11-04-2006 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Rob
11-04-2006 8:57 PM


Fly the Fundie Skies
[Billy Graham] responded, (and I paraphrase) "There are thousands of airplanes, some big, some small. They fly thousands of miles and perform all kinds of functions flawlessly, some mundane, others grand... But let one grand jumbo jet crash, and the whole world is gawking at the casualties."
Interesting analogy.
What we have, though, is more like ten jets crashing---all operated by the same airline. The airline has been reprimanded frequently by the FAA for hiring unqualified personnel, using substandard equipment and ignoring even the most basic safety standards. The airline's ads routinely make extravagant claims but is has always been plagued by lawsuits and audits and its shares occupy the cellar on the stock market. The planes themselves are known to have abyssmal safety records. Each downed jet was shown after its accident to have been held together with spit and Scotch tape. Yet airline executives repeatedly sidestep questions and have yet to make any changes.
People do ask questions after accidents like these. Why? Because investigations are proper in such situations. The priority is not revenge or morbid curiosity. The issue is how innocent people may be protected from abuse and exploitation by those charged with ensuring their safety.
Airline execs like Mr Graham dislike being summoned as part of the inquiry. But to avoid the subject is a criminal act of neglect when the airline, as he noted, daily puts more passengers in the air.
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Archer
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 169 of 302 (361717)
11-05-2006 12:11 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by nator
11-04-2006 8:51 PM


Re: a study in contrasts
Not at all, schraf. I'm just one of the--how does one say in Iano's piquant prose?--sickest of repulsive psychos with barely pardonable (and I do say it with extreme difficulty) black souls who utter the blackest, most ugly statements bar none that bring sin to the yellow, pus-filled surface that allows us all to see sin for what it is.
Unless I convert to fundamentalism. Then the same stuff happens, but it's no big deal.
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Archer
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 290 of 302 (362081)
11-06-2006 4:57 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by nator
11-03-2006 8:15 PM


the oil opposition
I have a question about a fundie ritual mentioned in that Harper's article. What's the deal with surreptitous neighborhood expeditions to annoint buildings with oil?
I knew a Pentecostal man in the States who used to do that. He'd go out in the wee hours with other members of his 'home church' and daub oil on doorframes.
Anyone know why do they do this? I confess my own idea of a Wesson Oil party is a little different.
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Archer
All species are transitional.

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