General discussion of moderation procedures - Part οκτώ

Faith, your absense is a great loss to the board at large and your creationism input will be especially missed. My first impulse was to just permanently log out and go fishing but decided not to act on impulse. My prayers go with you. Perhaps a way will be made for you to return, that is God wiling. Sometimes God closes doors in order for us to go though others. We don't know, of course if that's the case here. Anyhow, may God's rich blessings be with you! Keep in touch.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Two things never to expect in life:1. the last word
2. an apologyIf either comes my way, I think of it as a bonus._

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Why?

Because I always promote topics that are controversial. Perhaps I do show bias, but we all have our biases, eh, CK?

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Because it offers you a chance to attempt to insinuate my personal preferences and ridicule my decisions.

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Just be happy that I have a sense of humor about it all, CK.

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The reason that we have more than one administrator is because we all have differing views on what we deem to be good topics.

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Have I not promoted any of your topics lately?

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Edited by AdminPhat, : CK explanation

I'm not insinuating anything - I was totally unfront with my comment in the thread. I have no problem at all with a relationship between an older man and a younger boy but I think the the older gentleman to be upfront from the start, plus I don't think this forum is a suitable venue for such a courtship - that's what email and the phone is for.

I'm with you. I can see now that the small amount of time I spent on this forum was time utterly wasted...I won't be making that mistake ever again.

Sour grapes, guys. If you can't approach scientific issues via scientific reasoning, don't expect to be taken seriously on a scientific discussion board.Faith, as far as I could tell, was able to follow scientific rigor in her reasoning right up to the point where she felt the Bible had something else to say. I don't see that you two ever even bothered to do that.Iano, you never did answer that question. I guess now we'll never know.

since i know better than to put my .02 into most science threads because i know i have no idea what i'm talking about i never really had to deal with creo faith. i only ever had to deal with blindingly hateful, personally offensive at every turn faith. it seems i am the only person who feels this way. so be it. i'm sure she will be missed in other discussions. i dislike the idea of any voice being silenced, but it is a private arena and presence is a gift. i won't miss her for a moment. maybe after not reading her for a few months i can start to heal the damage she has done to my faith and my relationship with god.

My real intent is to know how people know they know Jesus. As a parent if Jesus is real, I must know. Although I am more open to the boogie man or Bigfoot being real if Jesus exists I must know. Nothing in this world could be more important than knowing if Jesus is real. If Jesus is real and he is I have no choice to follow and love him. I gladly retract my remarks about ”maddening behavior’ -Voosh . I also apologize for my inability to properly quote posts of others. I've said some 'brash' things in Chat. I will not retract them these. If this gets me banned or pushed away so be it. However, I understand the general comments about my opinions I posted on public forum - be nice or go home.Make no mistake I am an Atheist. I live in the USA(Brownsburg, Indiana). In the USA christianity is the most popular religion. Because of this I must focus my concern on christianity. I feel we intelligent adults must do everything within their power to end the spread of christianity immediately. Just as we would work to quickly stop the spread of small pox we must do the same with christianity. Short of violence I am open to any available methods to do this. I feel my role is a parent and the demand life places on me to protect my daughter are demands I take immediate action. I have not found my seat, my niche within ”atheism’ or anti-christian movement yet. I am not sure where I belong, what I can do or how I can help. I know posting here is not the best use of my time. Briefly, this 2,000 religion based on the misconception of men has nothing positive to lend to my daughter or myself. I will also go a step farther and say it has nothing positive to offer society. The grip christianity has held on this country has and will only continue to drag us down in every aspect of our lives. If no one will step forward I will carry the burden. Again I am not suggesting violence but I am more than a typer. I am receptive to hear about or become part of good ideas. Not for me but for my family. (Everyone knows my position now. No one in the future can ever again imply I attempted to mislead them).However, on the off chance I am mistaken. If every other religion is/has been wrong and christianity is real I have no concern admitting my mistakes. If my option is to suffer in hell or live in happiness whit my family it is not a difficult decision. It is my opinion if god is good and Jesus is real and the pictures churches paint of him in 2007 are accurate I must know him. I must be saved. It is also my opinion if this is real and not ancient mythology Jesus wants to meet me and must be working somehow behind the scenes to assist me in knowing him.Before I can be saved I must know how others know and understand there religion is correct. I must know how someone knows Jesus is real and the boogie man is not. I must know how someone knows Jesus is real and Thor is not. I must know how someone knows Jesus is real and Allah is not. I am not looking for personal opinions. This issue is too important to be based on personal opinion alone. Hard evidence is demanded in ever other sphere of out lives. A psychologist or doctor who told us a pill would extend our lives or enlarge our penises we would demand proof and evidence. For some reason religion is the only taboo topic that is off limits to critique and a necessity to clearly demonstrate with logical evidence it is true. This blows my frick’n mind. Again, I offer more about who I am so no one can accuse me of being misleading.I apologize for not quoting properly - you did call me out on this once before. I am not very good at articulating my thoughts to paper. Nor am I terribly internet savvy. I feel much more can be accomplished face to face. However, I opted to be here and you allow me to stay. I will do my best to learn the INs and OUTs of posting on this forum.I am receptive to speaking with anyone on the phone to address or answer my concerns or meeting in paper. I will gladly give out my personal information in PM at my risk.If I violated any rules and an apology is not acceptable to mend my evil deeds I shall accept the closing of my thread - although I know it is crap.
I do not wish to digress from my original message. I wish to pick up with my last questions from there. If anyone has any questions or concerns with what I have said here address them in Private--Tony

Too bad. Your strange mixture of postmodern deconstructionism with New Age pop psychology may not be terribly productive, but it is occassionally interesting.Good luck, iano.

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My real intent is to know how people know they know Jesus.

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Which is what I felt your OP was addressing, but your responses have been rude. Since faith is something very personal, you need to be respectful to those who are trying to answer your questions.This is a debate forum, not a place for a personal crusade. A topic is promoted and the participants discuss that topic and try not to deviate.

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Everyone knows my position now. No one in the future can ever again imply I attempted to mislead them

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It's not your personal position I'm talking about, but what the opening post presented for discussion. If you're asking questions about Jesus, then stick to discussing Jesus. Don't drag participants all over the place or blast them because you didn't get the answer you're looking for.

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Before I can be saved I must know how others know and understand there religion is correct.

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But your responses sound like your mind is made up, which is fine if it is; but then you aren't really open to understanding the believers position. That is contrary to what you present in the OP and in this explanation.You say you really want to know, but also say you want to wipe out Christianity.You say the believer refuses to admit that they could be incorrect, but you want to know how they are so sure of their belief.If you keep offering candy and then smack'em up side the head with a 2x4, they aren't going to talk with you.If you want to learn how to play the piano, you listen to the teacher.If you want to understand how a believer knows Jesus, then listen to the believer and ask respectful questions. You'll notice not all believers have the same answer.I won't suspend you for 24 hours for responding in the thread, since you also posted it here and I will leave the thread open.Keep to the topic of knowing Jesus.
Practice quoting and responding correctly.
Mind your typos. People can't answer if you don't communicate well.Please maintain respect and use a little decorum.

Hi Purple Teddy Bear. This thread is for moderation issues. I'm a creationist Jesus knowing God loving Biblical fundie moderator here at EvC and I must advise you that if you want to talk about your problems with other matters than moderation you need to use another venue for it. If you wish to delve into what you've shared here I'd be willing to do a one on one with you on this issue in the proper forum as plain ole member buzsaw. Being I've been a Christian over 60 years you might consider this. We want you to become a Forum Guidelines abiding member here so don't run off in a huff. Stick around, follow the rules and you will get along fine here. Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : No reason given.

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A creationist Jesus knowing God loving Biblical fundie moderator for EvC.

Hi Iano. Perhaps you should reconsider. When I saw (abe: the Faith )announcement, my first impulse was so much as yours that I actually composed a message that I was permanently loggin out and I thought I had submitted that message. However when I returned to my computer the message had not been submitted. I don't know whether an angel of God erased it or whether I simply forgot to submit, but I took it as from God that at least until God wants me out I should remain. I've twice been permanently banned from EvC and here I am as member and moderator. All I can say is I remain so long as God leaves me here. JEHOVAH GOD IS OMNIPOTENT! I will be praying for you. Maybe he wants you elsewhere, but perhaps you should remain and think it over. At any rate, you would be dearly missed and whatever your decision, may God's richest blessing be upon you and Faith. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

I find you as much a brick wall as Faith, but wasn't too happy to see you booted either. It is interesting to see your "rebirth" as it were. Is Faith out more permanently than you were? I guess I still don't understand why removal from mod, or restriction from science threads, was not enough.I found Iano somewhat less hardheaded (though maybe that was from lack of direct confrontation on specific issues), and never offensive. I'll miss him too. Perhaps he'll reconsider.

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holmes
"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." (D.Bros)

Hey AdminBuzsaw,PurpleTeddyBear was responding to my Admin msg in the Knowing God thread.Maybe he'll take you up on your offer to help him understand.

Hi PD. Is Purple Teddy gone? I didn't see where he wanted to dialog.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28