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Author Topic:   Genesis 1 and 2 - Contradictory?
ME2
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Message 7 of 40 (36107)
04-02-2003 2:16 PM


didn't we just have this discussion with conspritor concerning sequencial order

ME2
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Message 10 of 40 (36202)
04-03-2003 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Mister Pamboli
04-03-2003 1:50 AM


mister pamboli
why is it that christians jump back and forth between interpreting the bible literaly,symbolic,and metaphysical to dispell the accusation of it being contradictory?
so when the bible says that cain killed able...you take it no other way but literal...because it contains no ambigituity...
just like the bible says that adam was created first...it is the same streight forward english...
but because and contradiction can be shown...you want to change horses in mid stream..just for the fact of the bible not being wrong..
well mister pamboli...YOU ARE BEING INTELLECTUALY DISHONEST.........
answer me this...
are we to take jesus being nailed to a cross (cruxified) in the literal sense or symbolic?
(i'm asking you a question)
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ME2
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Message 12 of 40 (36209)
04-03-2003 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Mister Pamboli
04-03-2003 10:49 AM


BTW, you seem ready to lambast Christians for jumping back and forth between interpretations. Yet you limber up for this by leaping to conclusions yourself. I would hesitate to call this intellectual dishonesty, but it hardly inspires confidence.
no...i'm not...
when the bible says that cain killed able...i take it as such..
so what else am i to conclude..it is simple english...not hebrew..
and the reason i asked you about jumping back and forth or ...how did you say it "performing these intellectual calisthenics" is because you did it..
and the bible (since you want to play) is not written in hebrew..it is in english...that is how i and many other english speaking people that don't read hebrew are able to read it.. (just wanted to get that streight)
but thanks for answering my question about jesus being cruxified...
i only wanted you to tell me that you took the act in the literal sense so i could pin you down...
and now that i have
acts chapter 5 verse 30...it says that he was hanged from a tree.
(no contexual,symbolic,or metaphysical meanings to hide behind...only the literal)
it is two different accounts of how jesus died..
and yes...i have reached an conclusion that this is a contrdiction...

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ME2
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Message 14 of 40 (36217)
04-03-2003 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Mister Pamboli
04-03-2003 2:18 PM


I APOLOGIZE...i missread your post...
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE COMFORTABLE THAT THE BIBLE DIDN'T CONTAIN ANY CONTRADICTIONS...
ONCE AGAIN..I APOLOGIZE...
I LIKE IT WHEN A PERSON IS HONEST ABOUT THE BIBLE..AND I SEE YOU ARE..
(overlook the caps..i was to far to start over)

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ME2
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Message 16 of 40 (36219)
04-03-2003 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Mister Pamboli
04-03-2003 3:02 PM


yes we are...
it was just some excess baggage that i see now that i have for other posters (not on this board) that have came up with some wild explanations to explain away these contradictons..
some that would make even jesus do a double take..
and i have to admit..i was over taken by tunnel vision..and all i saw was "bible" and contradictions" and something snapped..
but it nice to see you kept a level head and just waited for the light to come on
and it did...and didn't i feel foolish in having miss-read your post..

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ME2
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Message 18 of 40 (36262)
04-04-2003 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Conspirator
04-04-2003 10:01 AM


excuse me...but can you point out my hostility?
because i don't believe i was...
so do me an favor and point to the parts of my post that are hostile..
i feel that if you post an topic of make and statement saying that the bible has no contradictions..well you have to expect someone to disagree with you..
isn't this how these boards work...?
you did exactly this...you created and thread stating just what i said..and was arrogant and evasive to all that responded to you...
but forget all of that...
please show me where i'm showing "hate" and "hostility"
i simple mis-read his post and respond to what i thought he was saying...and when i found out that i was wrong...i apologized
an in terms of being open minded...i am..but it is you christians that are not...
are some of you so "thin skined" that any objection to your post is looked upon as being hostile and closed minded?

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ME2
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Message 19 of 40 (36263)
04-04-2003 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Conspirator
04-04-2003 10:01 AM


[This message has been edited by ME2, 04-04-2003]

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ME2
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Message 21 of 40 (36280)
04-04-2003 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Conspirator
04-04-2003 12:14 PM


Conspirator
1.i asked you to show me...not give me your opinion..
2.you are in no position to enlighten me or give me any understanding of the bible ...you can't even defend your own stance....so save it.
3.you are insulting and condesending....why must you resort to name calling and characterization..
4. if you can't do that..then don't talk to me at all..even thought i haven gotten ignorant...doesn't mean i can't...i just choose not to..
you seem to be the one that is angry and hostile...look at you last post..
your actions don't seem christian to me...but neither did the actions of jesus...he was a name caller and a liar also..

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ME2
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Message 23 of 40 (36291)
04-04-2003 3:14 PM


yes...i will...but i will not be insulted or called ignorant too many more times for no reason...then i will get ignorant...

ME2
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Message 25 of 40 (36303)
04-04-2003 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Admin
04-04-2003 4:55 PM


admin
thanks for your example..and i have no problem complying..
but please keep in mind..i'm an adult..just as everyone else here is..
i sholudn't have to wait for admin to read thru evry post an this board to see who is being insulted...
like i said..i have no problem with your rules..but i've been grown too long to wait for you to tell someone else to be nice or respectful to me..
i had to tell this same person to keep my parents out of his mouth (they're dead)...i saw no stepping in on the part of admin...
and now i had to tell this same person..to stop insulting me...
i won't be called ignorant too many more times...

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ME2
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Message 33 of 40 (36493)
04-08-2003 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Conspirator
04-07-2003 1:53 PM


take responsibility for you own actions...
don't use me as an escape goat...
if you don't want to post...don't...
but don't use me as an reason not to...

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ME2
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Message 35 of 40 (36514)
04-08-2003 5:20 PM


conspiritor
you are too funny....what is your age again....
go ahead..you can make me your escape goat...the big bad old ME2 is on the board so i'll just pout and fold my arms and blame him...
even though i didn't ask the question that you would be responding to..
so if you think by responding to the poster that posed the question will somehow mean you are "dealing "with me...then by all means...don't respond...
but i'm at a lost to how you came to that conclusion..but then again...most of your posts have that effect on me...
and just for the record...you're wrong...i didn't say don't tell me what to do
what i said was don't tell me where i don't belong..this was after you said "maybe i don't belong here"
there is a diffenence....and christians shouldn't bare false witness...aka.."lie"
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ME2
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Message 39 of 40 (36580)
04-09-2003 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Admin
04-08-2003 5:36 PM


Re: Off-Topic Alert
ADMIN
can you inform the poster conspritor that his questioning me doesn't pertain to this topic ...
i agree with you...none of what we are discussing pertains to this topic..and i have stopped
now..when i stand up for myself...you hop all over me and ask me to run to you for help...
i want to and will follow your rules...but i won't be badgered

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