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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
Up to this present date, no one has been able to duplicate evolution in a labratory environment. In order for something to be scientifically true, it needs to be duplicated. It can't be. I realize that neither can creation. This is where faith comes in. It is much easier to believe in a loving God that created us than we are purely by chance.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
I challenge you to send me documentation where evolutionary steps were predicted and observed. Who predicted the supposed changes from apes to man? Who observed it. See what I mean? No one has ever witnessed it happening. The mathematical odds are greatly against any macro or micro mutations occuring. Even if they did, the chances of the mutations being beneficial are too small.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
Thanks for the welcome!! that was unexpected. I trust you have access to dates and locations of these momentous occasions where speciation occurred in a lab environment. Right? Something this huge scientifically should be documented. The problem with abiogenesis is that an animal left on its own will never in the realm of probability mutate significantly enough to make a difference. The astronomically high number of cells in advanced animals combined with the possible amount of permutations leads to impossible odds. Being a mathematics professor, I would think that you would be able to see this. Mathematics essentially doesn't allow for the possibility of helpful mutations.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
Doesn't the theory of evolution also involve something arrising from nothing? Wasn't this disproven by Pastuer?
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
So does this mean that the scientists that "see" these evolutionary changes in the lab could be lying.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
Yes, I am aware they lie...especially in regards to radioactive dating. This is the biggest joke ever to hit the field. The numbers and data can be manipulated so as to achieve a desired result. This was explained to me by a scientist..Jay Gould.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
The problems with probabilities is that in order to calculate them you need to know all the possibilities.
Ahh come on!! You know that is a bunch of malarkey. I majored in mathematics. I know all about probabilities. You don't have to know all the possibilities...there are computers that with the data can compute the number of possibilities. Give me a break.Also, just because new species are being found daily (if that) that doesn't mean that they evolved from anything at all. They may have been around from the beginning of time. Like some of the new species of fish they find in the depths of the ocean. Re: the AiG, That site has some good points, but the one about entropy is a joke. There is a reason why it is called a LAW. Everything follows it. They haven't disproved it...they can't. Food breaking down into it's components doesn't show that chaos is good. The quality of energy is still going down...just like the law says it will.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
Yes, there are a couple of books that I don't happen to own, but have read. They are by scientists that have studied evolution for years and finally confessed to the lies they had been telling to themselves and the public about how evolution is a dead end. It has no merit. They couldn't prove it. They're great books. I'll get the titles and get back to you.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
what do you mean it doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics? Of course it does. If entropy is increasing how can animals evolve into something more complex? This is the main argument (on the physics side of things anyway). This is why mammals don't give birth to full sized adults. All the information needed to make that organism is contained in the very first merging of the male and female parts. Then as time goes by, you have a decrease in the quality, or increase in entropy. The amount of information/energy is still there, just in a different form. This happens all the time. Oh, one of the books is called Darwin on Trial by Phillip E. Johnson. It's really good...you should read it.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
oh come on!! You're better than that!! An animal growing into a mature version of itself isn't even close to the same as something changing into something that has a totally different genetic structure!! Give me more of a challenge!!
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
Hey, it has been a true pleasure debating with you. I hope we can chat more later. Up till a few days ago, I didn't know such cool forums existed. I appreciate all your input. I have learned too.
Thanks. I'm turning in now.
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DivineBeginning Member (Idle past 6048 days) Posts: 100 Joined: |
I'm so sorry about that. It won't happen again, as I am very new to this whole forum thing. I will keep tabs on what I am discussing. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
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