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Buzsaw
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Message 5 of 214 (364711)
11-19-2006 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by randman
11-17-2006 3:49 PM


Randman writes:
6. The idea that natural selection is an agent for macroevolution, completely unsubstantiated as the forces of natural selection appear to limit genetic diversity, not increase it.
7. The idea that microevolution is an example of macroevolution writ small. Once again, it's a false idea because the forces of microevolution tend to limit genetic diversity, not increase it.\
8. Claiming the fossil record shows evolutionary transitions when in reality, it shows the opposite.
I could go on and on, but perhaps some other critics of evolution would like to add to the list......after all, we want to make sure people are not conned.
Hi Randman. Nice to talk to you again. I do miss your imput in the other forums. I especially appreciate the points you have made in this thread and have cited you in POM as speaking for many of us.
1. Regarding #6, would sexual harmony in alleged macroevolution be a problem evolutionists would have in species changes.
2. What is your thinking on abiogenisis relative to the need for reproduction including all the complexities which the sex/reproductive factor would present for it to continue once generated for survival in the earliest stage of alleged abiogenisis. Perhaps you might open a thread here on that if you think it worth discussing as I've wondered about it for a long time. I brought it up in my recent Is It Science thread as one of the things evolutionists appear to be sweeping under the rug but see nobody responded to my remark there. I'm not sure whether it would apply to this thread or not.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 8 of 214 (365030)
11-20-2006 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by randman
11-19-2006 4:26 PM


Re: long time.....nice to talk with you as well
Randman writes:
All that may have missed your point, however....I'll take a look at those threads you mentioned....
There was only this one message that I remember addressing what I'm aluding to:
Buzsaw threadAll that may have missed your point, however....I'll take a look at those threads you mentioned.... quote writes:
Hi Ned. The problem with your advice is that your interpretation of the observed requires replication whereas the Genesis hypothesis does not. You don't replicate sudden creation of a pair of a species which go on to propagate into millions relatively rapidly by design of an eternal supreme architect. Your hypothesis/theory allegedly takes billions of years to produce one species from scratch, i.e. form some kind of mysterious singularity bit of space and even likely millions to get from the soup to living thinking breathing sexy organism capable of and inclined to reproducing so as not to die out before the mate get's caught up in the process. (I always wondered how the first species of anything survived long enough to syncranize with the evoluton of a mate capable of reproduction?? Seems as though you'd need millions or billions of the same thing evolving until one came out capabable of and willing to bed down with the lover with all the complex serum and anatomy parts required for business. Abe: How likely is that going to happen? The lonely first organism must have allegedly had to achieve some kind of pretty deviant orgies to even begin to originate the process and accomplish a lot in a hurry before it died.
Hey, I'm not trying to be funny. I'm serious. That's gotta be quite a feat with nothing capable of thinking to oversee and guide/design the process, hasn't it now when the brightest of wonderfully intelligent beings can't even create simple life with all our sophisticated technology?
http://EvC Forum: What IS Science And What IS NOT Science? -->EvC Forum: What IS Science And What IS NOT Science?
Do you see what I'm saying, Rand? How is any living organism going to advance without a means of reproducing before dying. Not only that, but primordal soup would have to be a terribly poor environment for the advancement of some chemicals which allegedly united to form life.
I'm not authorized to do threads here. This is likely off topic to your thread here. It might be interesting for you to open a thread to address this in Showcase if you might be so inclined. If not, no problem.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 22 of 214 (365647)
11-23-2006 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by nwr
11-22-2006 8:02 AM


Re: male and female
NWR writes:
I agree with Wounded King, that it would be better to start a separate thread for this. I'll note that Archer Opterix has proposed such a thread at Thread Sex Sex Sex in Forum Proposed New Topics. That could be promoted to Forum Showcase, in which case Archer Opterix would be unable to participate. Or it might be better for you to start a similar thread here, and the existing PNT could be promoted to a parallel thread for other evolutionists to discuss.
Such a thread would be interesting. What hasn't been addressed so far on this is how the first and simplest living organism might have survived to propigate itself into something continuous so far as abiogenesis goes. Logically the odds of survival would seem to be impossible void of enough sudden complexity to effect survival and abiogenesis of any organism.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 25 of 214 (365865)
11-24-2006 8:21 PM
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11-24-2006 6:38 AM


Re: male and female
DA, I see intelligent design in your argument which is not spontaneous at al but ID folks at work doing things with stuff that is in place to work with and mix, et al.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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