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Author Topic:   What is the biggest bible contradiction?
Clark
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Message 6 of 311 (365372)
11-22-2006 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Neutralmind
11-21-2006 10:06 AM


The Gospel of Matthew has Jesus ride on two donkeys as he enters Jerusalem, is, in my mind, a pretty telling contradiction. Mark and Luke have Jesus riding on a colt, Matthew has him riding on an ass and a colt. The author of Matthew is obviously cherry-picking the Old Testament for prophecies and stumbles on a mis-translation in the Septuagint. There other instances in Matthew cherry-picking the Old Testament that are telling as well.
The day Jesus is crucified is a good one too. Mark (and I think the other synoptics) have Jesus crucified on the day after Passover (the Passover meal being the genesis for the Last Supper). The Gospel of John has him crucified the day before Passover. Apparently the reason John does this is to support the comparison of Jesus as the sacrificial Passover lamb ala Exodus, something the synoptics apparently aren't interested in. Also in John the Last Supper has nothing to do with the Passover meal. Biblical scholar Bart Ehrman uses this contradiction prominently in his deconstruction of the Gospel of John.
Also, for a good comprehensive list of contradictions, check out the Skeptic's Annotated Bible.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
ABE: I meant to suggest simply reading the Gospel of Mark. It's not that long. There are so many stories of Jesus casting out demons it is startling. The book is rife with what these days would be described as superstition.
Edited by Clark, : No reason given.

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Clark
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Message 28 of 311 (365941)
11-25-2006 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Neutralmind
11-24-2006 4:42 PM


Yehowas witness.
In the US at least, it is Jehovah's Witness and not the more accurate Yahweh, and that would be an example of another contradiction. I'm not familiar with all the details but the JW's insist that it is Jehovah even though this is based on mistranslation from German Bibles.
Also, the JW's Bible has even more contradictions and problems than the orthodox Christian Bible.
Btw, Jesus riding two animals was part of what led my girlfriend to start questioning the Bible and eventually to lose her faith in fundamentalist Christianity. It is a great example that demonstrates how all these "miraculous" Biblical prophecies were invented. The virgin birth, also in the Gospel of Matthew, is another one, where the author is reading a mistranslation in the Septuagint from the Book of Isaiah. The virgin birth story seems to be a synthesis of that mistranslation and pagan beliefs about God[s] impregnating virgins.

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Clark
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Message 41 of 311 (366163)
11-26-2006 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by nator
11-26-2006 9:16 AM


Hi Schrafinator, I think you meant the Gospel of John instead of Mark. Mark, Matthew, and Luke have Jesus crucified after Passover and John has him crucified on the day of Passover. I already mentioned it earlier in this thread.

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Clark
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Message 66 of 311 (366504)
11-28-2006 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Hyroglyphx
11-28-2006 11:59 AM


Re: Gospel of John
We know that Mark is likely a secondhand account and possibly Luke, but I doubt that John or Matthew were anything but eyewitness accounts.
A couple of questions regarding the authorship of Matthew. Are you familiar with the synoptic problem? When we put Mark, Matthew, and Luke through textual analysis, we find out that Matthew and Luke copied from Mark. Why would an eyewitness copy text from a source you admitted was probably not an eyewitness?
Also, if the author of Matthew is an eyewitness, presumably he is a disciple of Jesus and therefore a Jew from Galilee. In the Gospel of Matthew it is clear that when he quotes the Old Testament, he is quoting from the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the OT) and not directly from the Hebrew. So, why would a disciple of Jesus and a Jew from Galilee quote from a Greek translation instead of Hebrew?

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