No Abiogenesis, no Evolution, then what?

Hi pilate_judas,I realize I'm butting into a debate here, but I find your "logic" a bit, well, illogical.Particularly your premise 3: Where did this come from? It certainly doesn't follow from premises 1 and 2. I know it is a folk saying, but that doesn't really count much in its favour.In logical terms, you are saying:"For every thing that invariably obeys a rule, there is a thing that does not follow the rule"Well, okay, I might challenge your view of what a rule is! If a rule is necessarily disobeyed, then it is not a rule, in my understanding of the term. A rule must be obeyed, otherwise it is not a rule. It is merely a convention.Hence: This requires that your rule ("all made things have a maker") necesssarily is NOT a rule ("there exists a made thing which has no maker").I can't for the life of me imagine why you would dig yourself into such a hole. You seem to be saying that every truthful thing you say (which follows the rule of being true or being false) is ultimately and necessarily a lie. Because if it were not a lie... it wouldn't be true!Back to logic class with you!MickEdited by mick, : No reason given.Edited by mick, : No reason given.Edited by mick, : No reason given.Edited by mick, : I corrected a misuse of the subjunctive.