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Coragyps Member (Idle past 761 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
The Doors were a lot like Janis Joplin: both could be very good on the rare occasions when the whole band got the dose right. That just didn't happen too much - they usually sounded like high-school kids with limited talent.
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Well, here's some details from the that sescribes a bit of the available research.
(Please don't hold the source of the link against the info)
Research indicates that 25% to 30% of male college students in the United States and Canada admit that there is some likelihood they would rape a woman if they could get away with it [6].
In the first study of males' self-reported likelihood to rape that was conducted at the University of California at Los Angeles, the word rape was not used; instead, an account of rape (described below) was read to the male subjects, of whom 53% said there was some likelihood that they would behave in the same fashion as the man described in the story, if they could be sure of getting away with it (Malamuth, Haber, and Feshbach, 1980). Without this assurance, only 17% said they might emulate the rapist's behavior. It is helpful to know exactly what behavior these students said they might emulate: Bill soon caught up with Susan and offered to escort her to her car. Susan politely refused him. Bill was enraged by the rejection. "Who the hell does this bitch think she is, turning me down," Bill thought to himself as he reached into his pocket and took out a Swiss army knife. With his left hand he placed the knife at ther throat. "If you try to get away, I'll cut you," said Bill. Susan nodded her head, her eyes wild with terror. The story then depicted the rape. There was a description of sexual acts with the victim continuously portrayed as clearly opposing the assault (Malamuth, Haber, and Feshbach, 1980, p. 124). In another study, 356 male students were asked: "If you could be assured that no one would know and that you could in no way be punished for engaging in the following acts, how likely, if at all, would you be to commit such acts?" (Briere and Malamuth, 1983). Among the sexual acts listed were the two of interest to these researchers: "forcing a female to do something she really didn't want to do" and "rape" (Briere and Malamuth, 1983). Sixty percent of the sample indicated that under the right circumstances, there was some likelihood that they would rape, use force, or do both. In a study of high school males, 50% of those interviewed believed it acceptable "for a guy to hold a girl down and force her to have sexual intercourse in instances such as when 'she gets him sexually excited' or 'she says she's going to have sex with him and then changes her mind'" (Goodchilds and Zellman, 1984).
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I base it on the results of research. And I believe it to be more "nurture" than "nature". I mean, you know it's only been a few decades since using a woman's appearance against her in a rape case was SOP for the defense, and that spousal or partner rape was even considered a real phenomena, since "how could a man rape his wife"?.
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Not that I've been able to find. Rapes where the woman is the prepetrator and the man is the victim are so rare. At least they aren't reported. However, there seems to be a bit of research on lesbian sexual assaults that I unfortunately was not able to access.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4986 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Shouldn't you be saying that over 50% of American males would violently rape a woman if they thought they'd get away with it?
Brian.
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Quite right, Brian.
I stand corrected, and I'll amend my post.
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Rail Bird Junior Member (Idle past 1625 days) Posts: 15 Joined: |
Not a Doors fan either, but Road House Blues contains one of my favorite couplets:
"Well,I woke up this morning and I got myself a beerThe future is uncertain and the end is always near" Makes me thirsty everytime I hear it.
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Sour Member (Idle past 2274 days) Posts: 63 From: I don't know but when I find out there will be trouble. (Portsmouth UK) Joined: |
(1)There is no free will (we are observers).
(2)Punishment has nothing to do with justice, rehabilitation or revenge, but is society as an organism protecting itself, all other explanations are emotional. (3)Synaesthesia and psychedelics are involved in the evolution of human consciousness. (x)Firefly is brilliant. Edited by Sour, : justice or revenge -> justice, rehabilitation or revenge
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Firefly is brilliant. I don't think this is controversial. TTFN, WK
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4020 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
I suspect that plants/trees communicate via mental telepathy. How do the majority know to flower on the same day? Either MT or they can count, i.e. so many days of (say) above 20 degrees C and it`s all systems go.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Firefly is brilliant. I don't think this is controversial. To the contrary; here's me from message 5:
quote: Seriously, though, when a guy sets out to make a space western and the best he can do is to set The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas on another planet (that looks just like Southern California), full of characters who are all hookers with hearts of gold (as the saying goes), in a bordello called "The Heart of Gold", in an episode called "Heart of Gold", my guess is that you are not dealing with one of the most creative minds in Hollywood. For a good space western, see Cowboy Bebop. (Subbed or dubbed, the dub is better, actually. There's another controversial opinion.)
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RickJB Member (Idle past 5017 days) Posts: 917 From: London, UK Joined: |
Perhaps it should be 50% of American FRAT-BOYS would violently rape a woman if they thought they'd get away with it?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Perhaps it should be 50% of American FRAT-BOYS would violently rape a woman if they thought they'd get away with it? I didn't see anything in the above that suggested fraternity membership was corellated with score. I don't understand why this is so hard for you all to accept. Actually, I guess I do - it's fashionable to consider rape such a monstrous crime that one comes to believe that only a monster is capable of it (and certainly, one's friends are certainly not to be considered monsters.) That's probably the greatest disservice we do to rape victims. The simple truth is that even completely normal men are capable of rape. Many of your friends and family are capable of it. More than likely, you're capable of it yourself. (I won't insult your intelligence by claiming I'm the exception, either.) This is why rape victims, when they come forward, almost always find themselves alone in the midst of a very hostile reception. After all "but we know Jim, we know he's not capable of doing that... you must be a liar, or confused or something. You must not know the way the world works." Whatever that means. I've seen it happen; seen a rape victim turned on by her "friends" because they were also friends with the rapist, and the fact that they know he's a "good guy" and "could never do that." Well, he did do that. Schraf is 100% right. The "good guys" are capable of that. The sooner we realize that rape is not merely the province of monsters, but something a majority of guys are capable of, the better. Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Er, it's a western, right? And it's got the budget of a Fox TV show, not of a George Lucas film, right?
quote: Crash, I loves ya, but you don't always get irony, do you? It's funny that he named the place and the episode "Heart of Gold".
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Er, it's a western, right? I don't know, is it? It always seemed to me that it takes more to make a western than sixguns and hokey dialogue. And anyway it's supposed to be a "space western", and so simply taking episodes of "The Lone Ranger" and setting them on the Planet of the Week is taking the easy way out.
Crash, I loves ya, but you don't always get irony, do you? No, I get irony. (In fact as an English major I was specifically trained in irony.) I also get it when people think being obvious is ironic.
quote: In other words "irony" is the situation where what happens is different than what is expected. An episode about hookers with hearts of gold, at The Heart of Gold, called "Heart of Gold", is the exact opposite of irony. It's like Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic", which is ironic because none of the situations she describes are actually ironic. Ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife is not ironic. Irony is ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife, and then you get stabbed to death. That's ironic.
It's funny that he named the place and the episode "Heart of Gold". I didn't really think it was funny. I think it's a sign of a writer thinking he's hot shit on a shingle, and that every goofy idea he has is going to be flat-out hilarious. It's amateurish.
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