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Author Topic:   Sad what Bible Inerrancy can do to a mind!
AdminPamboli
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Message 50 of 79 (36793)
04-11-2003 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by drummachine
04-11-2003 7:45 PM


Warning to drummachine - not advancing discussion
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Am I not aloud to ask questions like these? You know why these questions come up is because evolution is impossible because there is no evidence.
Here's several problems, drummachine:
Firstly, simply cutting and pasting a list of questions, that have been well-discussed here already, does not show a good attitude to the forum. There is a whole searchable archive of discussion on these issues to look at if you are genuinely open to researching this. There is also a wide range of refernce documents which you can find here http:///WebPages/Reference.html
Secondly, as a Christian you should think of the golden rule - do as you would be done by. Put yourself in the position where you are running a discussion board on, say, Christianity. how would you feel if every new non-Christian member went to one of the many "problems with the Bible" or "problems with Christianity" websites and just pasted in 20 or 30 questions and said "Answer that!" Would you regard them as good contributors to the discussion? Would you regard their attitude as fair and reasonable? How would you see the board surviving, or ever getting round to actually discussing things.
Thirdly, if you go to this section of this site http:///WebPages/CreationistWebsites.html you will find a list of 18 creationist websites. It's not as if anyone here is nnot aware of these issues, you know.
Fourthly, your posts are becoming lightweight in content and very heavy on off-topic preaching. In several recent posts you have done little more than post a paragraph or two on topic, if we're lucky, and then launch into a vague mish-mash of Bible quotes and, no doubt heartfelt, claims about "only one truth" or "man loves darkeness" or some such. This simply does not move the disussion along, and has to stop. Please confine your posts to the substance of the topic on hand. If you wish to discuss your views on religious truth or why man loves darkness, then you are very welcome to open topics for those subjects where they will be on-topic and relevant.
Finally, you make a lot of unsupported claims ... "evolution is impossible because there is no evidence", "it tells them that there are no absolutes","when we look at history it fits with the Bible no matter how much mankind will try to to remove it." All free-standing claims that are completely unsupported by anything in your discussion of the topic. If you want to do this kind of thing you are very welcome to open topics on such subjects. but even there you will need to keep on topic.
I'm trying to be patient with you, because originally I thought you were sincere. I am beginning to suspect otherwise. I see virtually no sign that you are willing to engage in discussion of the issues you cut and paste.
This is a friendly but firm warning. From now on, I will expect you to post on-topic, clearly dealing with the issue at hand. Otherwise you may find your posting privileges suspended for a while to give you time to reflect.
[This message has been edited by AdminPamboli, 04-11-2003]

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AdminPamboli
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Message 60 of 79 (36808)
04-11-2003 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by drummachine
04-11-2003 9:29 PM


Re: Warning to drummachine - not advancing discussion
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I'm not trying to post these things in a harsh way.
That is not my concern. I was addressing a number of breaches of rules, and the problem that you introduce questions that are already thoroughly discussed in other topics, are off topic to this thread, and do not advance the discussion.
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You assume that I cut and pasted that yet you cannot even see me.
In some cases you have apparently cut and pasted or directly copied.
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Why are these questions being brought up? Because evolution cannot answer them.
Again this is an entirely unsupported assertion. If you want to see if evolution can answer them or not, why not participate in one of the detailed evolution discussion here?
Your record in taking part in discussion on evolution topics is, frankly, disgraceful. You opened the topic "Where is the evidence for evolution?" with this post http://EvC Forum: Where is the evidence for evolution? -->EvC Forum: Where is the evidence for evolution? on Jan 23rd 2003. Apart from your inital question you took no further part whatsoever in that discussion, though it ran for 367 posts! That is simply not participating in good faith.
You opened the topic "evolution Q & A" with a huge post here, copied without acknowledgement, http://EvC Forum: Evolution Q & A -->EvC Forum: Evolution Q & A But again you took no further part in the 14 posts of that thread before it was closed.
As far as I can see, you have not taken any further part in the Evolution forums on this board, but you have the cheek to post in the faith and belief, and Bible forums, "Why are these questions being brought up? Because evolution cannot answer them."
Do not be at all surprised if no one takes you seriously until you show that you are open to reasoned discussion in good faith.
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There is no such thing as the Golden Rule in the Bible.
Matthew 7:12 is commonly known as the golden rule - my paraphrase is very widely known and first appeared in Matthew Henry's 17th century commentary on Matthew 7:12. "The golden rule of equity is, to do to others as we would they should do to us."
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Now about the scriptures I posted. Am I not aloud to post that? Is this the thread for "faith" or not? Are we not aloud to use the Bible as reasons for the origin of life? The Bible is reasonable and I can explain why.
As for your postings from the Bible, if they illustrate or underwrite the subject matter of your post, and if your post is on topic, then no problem.
However, just because this is the Faith and Belief forum, does not mean that anything to do with faith and belief is relevant to any topic - that's why we have topics in the first place, to organize the discussion.
The warning stands - please stay on topic, and follow the forum rules. I strongly suggest you read them again to be clear about them: http:///WebPages/ForumRules.html
You are too frequently in breach of 1,2,4,5 and 6. Not a good record when there are only 8 rules!

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AdminPamboli
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Message 63 of 79 (36813)
04-12-2003 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by drummachine
04-11-2003 10:25 PM


Re: Warning to drummachine - not advancing discussion
Thanks drummachine - I really want you to be able to take part in this forum in a positive manner. I know you have it in you!
Do open a new prophecy thread if you want to continue on that subject. There are quite a few participants with an interest in this.
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