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Author Topic:   Why is it Evolution versus Creation?
Chiroptera
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Message 8 of 45 (368186)
12-07-2006 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by geatz
12-07-2006 10:28 AM


Welcome to EvC, geatz.
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Again you make it seem you only believe science, and therefor creation is wrong.
No, what people are saying is that they will believe the evidence that is in front of their faces and will give credence to the logical inferences that can be made based on that evidence.
The evidence from geology, biology, and astronomy clearly and plainly show that the universe is billions of years old, the earth is billions of years old, and that current life has evolved from a much smaller number of species over those billions of years.
There is no evidence in favor of a Genesis type of creation only a few thousand years old or for a single global flood within historical times. In fact, the evidence clearly and plainly contradicts these ideas.
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why do you think that that ID isn't possible?
No one is saying that ID isn't possible. Just that there is no evidence to show that any intelligence was responsible for what we see in the biology or geology. And, in fact, what we see in geology and biology are consistent with the operation of blind, non-intelligent forces. Why bring in a construct that is not necessary?
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There is corroborating evidence to support jesus and his miracles(Josephus, Paul's letters, Terullian, Caria), authentic documentary evidence(The Bible), eye witness evidence(thousands of people witnessed his miracles),
What does this have to do with biology or geology?
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as well as archaeological confirmation.
As well as archaeological refutation, as Brian would no doubt love to explain to you.
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But more than likely in the grand scheme of things, science is wrong.
Perhaps. But I wouldn't want to bet on it.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 11 of 45 (368328)
12-07-2006 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by geatz
12-07-2006 11:14 PM


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What about the historical evidence for Jesus I just pointed out. Why do you choose to ignore that.
I ignore it because it is not on topic for this thread.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 30 of 45 (368351)
12-08-2006 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by geatz
12-07-2006 11:30 PM


topic? we don't need no stinkin' topic.
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sure it is.
Actually, it's not. I'm not sure what the problem here is. The theory of evolution will either be confirmed or refuted on its own merits, based on evidence, and anything about Jesus is entirely irrelevant.
Are there "holes" in the theory of evolution? If so, present them.
Is there evidence that the earth is only a few thousand years old, or that all the species were individual acts of creation? If so, present it.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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