Bible accepts evolution

Actually, the sower and the mustard seed are two different parables. (In the Bible, mustard tends to be more of a weed than a condiment.) Where do you read "fixation" of genes?

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I don't think it does. There's no indication that the 30-fold/60-fold/100-fold increase is passed on to the next generation. It's like saying one of my daughters is five-foot-ten and one is five-foot-six and one is five-foot-two. That isn't "evolution", it's happenstance.

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Where do you see "acknowledgement of random selection"?Some of the seeds fell on more fertile ground, some on less fertile ground. (Note Jesus' explanation of the parable: some of His words fall on "deaf ears".) The "selection" of which plants survive seems to be based on nutrition.There is no reason to assume that the different yields were caused by different "kinds" of seeds (once again, not mustard seeds ).There is no reason to assume that the birds didn't eat seeds more-or-less equally from the different enviromnments.In other words, there is no reason to assume a random component.

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Just a few questions - not an ambush. Jesus was born of a woman, so wasn't He saying that John was even "greater" than He was? Doesn't that suggest that "the last shall be first" is more about equality than about "measuring" who is greater? Is it really necessary to bring in a spooky in-me/out-of-me, push-me/pull-you interpretation?And what does this have to do with the Bible accepting evolution? I'm guessing you'd agree with me that the parables in question don't "acknowledge" evolution. (And yes I'm sitting down. )

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Now, that's close the actual topic, which is: the Bible accepts evolution.Specifically, the OP gives two examples where the Bible supposedly acknowledges evolution. I have argued against the second example. Do you have any comment on the topic?

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That's like saying the title of Treasure Island should be The Wind in the Willows.
The author gets to pick the title, not you. The topic is about the Bible and evolution - not "micro-evolution". The Bible may speak about "micro-evolution" but nobody has shown yet that the Bible speaks about evolution as science defines it.If you want to show that, we have a whole thread ahead of us.

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You're still being sloppy with terminology. We're not talking about "micro-evolution" and we're not talking about "evolutionism" - we're talking about evolution. Both science and Bible study require very precise use of words.Of course, the Bible does not recognize science at all - but the topic's premise is that the Bible does recognize evolution.The question here is not whether evolution is true or false. The question is whether or not the Bible authors knew about evolution and "acknowledged" it in their books.If you have comments on that question, please fire away. If not, we have lots of other topics for your viewing pleasure.

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You're still misunderstanding the topic. "Truth" has nothing to do with it.The question is: Did the authors of the Bible understand/acknowledge/mention evolution?
It's like asking: Did the authors of the Bible know about France? It's not about whether France is "true" or not. Since the topic is not about "truth", it makes no difference whether there is one truth or eleven. We are not trying to measure anything against anything else for its "truth" value. We're trying to understand what - if anything - the Bible authors had to say about evolution.Since this is Bible Study, we are not interested in what you think about evolution. You're welcome to discuss that in other threads. This thread is about what the Bible says about evolution.Your next post should quote the Bible.

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Fine words from somebody who hasn't used the Bible at all to back up his assertions. (By the way, I didn't make any argument, "strawman" or otherwise. I'm just trying to help you understand what we're discussing here. Platypus has clarified what he wants to discuss, so let's lean in that direction, shall we?)How about dusting off your Bible and addressing the topic?

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Uhhh.... I discuss a lotta things. Can you be more specific? Do you mean, "Does the Bible mention/acknowledge evolution?" or something waaaaay back that I've already forgotten?

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Read a little farther:

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Ecc 3:22 Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?

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Seems to suggest that even if we can never know it all, we should keep looking - just for the sheer pleasure of inquiry.

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