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Author Topic:   The Thomas-ReMine Debate Is Complete
lpetrich
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Message 1 of 3 (36917)
04-13-2003 9:02 PM


Here is one of that debate's home pages. Walter ReMine has just submitted his final contribution, the final one of the debate. The subject:
"Comparisons of molecules (proteins, DNA) of various species provide independent and compelling support for the hypothesis of biological macro-evolution"
It seems to me that Dave Thomas has made a much more reasonable case than Walter ReMine, who liked to wander all over the place without really explaining what his "Message Theory" was. ReMine often seemed to me to not really understand what he was talking about, and he has apparently spent a sizable amount of time working in a quote mine.
[This message has been edited by lpetrich, 04-13-2003]

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wj
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04-14-2003 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by lpetrich
04-13-2003 9:02 PM


ReMine's argument is obviously stronger, more logical and has the greater weight of evidence. Just look at all the underlines. And that's not even counting the underlined italics. And who could argue with words in big bold font?
Is this the best that the creationist side has to offer, a one trick pony?

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derwood
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Message 3 of 3 (36960)
04-14-2003 10:01 AM


ReMine is either incompetent of deceptive
Probably both...
Writes the electrical engineer creationist ReMine:
"2. Evolutionists use fossil-ages to "calibrate" the molecular clock - thereby guaranteeing a "match" between the two."
This is a blatant misrepresentation and a sad attempt at disinformation.
Here is how fossil calibration points are REALLY used:
An "agreed" upon fossil date is used to set a starting (calibration) point. FROM that point, the divergence dates of other species are calculated using molecular data.
These divergence dates often are congruent with dates inferred via other methods, such as other fossils (see Mol Phylogenet Evol 1999 Nov;13(2):348-59 Molecular phylogeny of Old World monkeys (Cercopithecidae) as inferred from gamma-globin DNA sequences. Page SL, Chiu Ch, Goodman M.
or
Mol Phylogenet Evol 2001 Jan;18(1):14-25
Catarrhine phylogeny: noncoding DNA evidence for a diphyletic origin of the mangabeys and for a human-chimpanzee clade. Page SL, Goodman M.).
ReMine is implying, as desperate cretins are wont to do, that there is some foul play afoot.
What is really afoot is ReMine's blatant dishonesty and ignorance.
I suggest that Walter ReMine, creationist electrical engineer, actually learn a LITTLE about what he prattles on about. The more he carries on, the bigger an ass he makes of himself.
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