King David found guilty on all counts.

What an absolute copout. That is certainly the weak and easy answer. Let GOD do it. Again with the excuses. You are certainly illuminating why so much of Christianity today is morally bankrupt and thus, quite honestly, at best irrelevant and at worst, malignant.It goes against everything that Jesus taught. We might turn to Jesus teachings, to the lessons from the Bible.We received the GIFT in the Garden of Eden, the Knowledge of Good and Evil. With that gift came a charge; we should try to do what is right, try not to do what is wrong and when we fail, honestly acknowledge that failure and try to do better in the future.It really is as simple as that.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Talk about informative!

It is either a copout or it isn't.But it is weak. The cross challenges everything you believe in materila terms. The right to power and the right to use that power.But it is weak. That's why it's true.You got an intersection with all kinds of raods. Power, fame, senuality etc. And then there is this old wooden cross. Th old timber is terribly out of place among the others.Our only alternative to God diong it, is to do it ourself!If we do it ourself, then we by implication play God.We can't hanlde the forbidden fruit jar. The weakness is in admitting that I have failed.Some people are not strong enough to be weak.

I wasn't comparing myself to the bible. I was comparing myself to King David, who was suppose to be this moral and value conservative republican...God was suppose to be all knowing and yet he chose a man that couldn't keep his penis in his pants to be king. I lived with my friend David for some time and one time when he was away at work I saw his girlfriend naked coming out of the shower. I think she purposely kept the bathroom door open... Anyhow, I apologized and promptly left the house.I'm a human being. I don't let my penis control me. A king chosen by god? We should at least expect a little more from him, don't you think? Unless of course you were referring to yourself...

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George Absolutely Stupid Bush the Younger

Do you think that they are being so jolly about it because they know that David didn't exist and that it is the meanings behind the David myths that are important?Brian.

You are confusing Christian theology with Jewish theology. Not everyone was a sinner in the OT.There is no original sin in Judaism, and Jews believe that humans enter the world sin free, but only sin because they are not perfect.In fact sin had quite a different meaning in many instances in the OT.Brian.

What?Sorry but just more copout and yet another example that many Christians don't have a clue what Christianity is all about.Read the Gospels. They are about doing. Not about stepping back and saying "I can't do it. Poor little me."Read Jesus messages, they are all about doing. Your ass falls in a crack on the sabbath? Don't wait until the next day, pull it out.You have excess? Give some of it to others.Read Matthew 25:33-46. It clearly says "do it". Do it yourself. Do it just because it is the right thing to do.Don't do it FOR Jesus. If you do the right thing for others you will have done it for Him.Check out the thread Message 1. Read the whole thread.Living a Christian life is not about platitudes, it is about doing.Simple, not easy.But it really is as simple as that.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I'm human, too. Will fundies shrug like this if I commit murder and adultery as well?___

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Yes and no. I am not sure whether they think David actually existed. Personally I imagine that there was some factual person the stories are based on. There might even have been some confederation of city-states that some King held sway over.But I do think they understand that the meanings behind the myths are important. I imagine that like the Exodus Myths, the Conquest of Canaan myths and others there may be some kernel of actual history hidden within.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I think they may well be little kernels in there, and these actual historical kernels do not necessarily need to have involved Israelites.I'm not so sure about David though.Anyway im OT no doubt.Brian.

Right, but why a mock trial for somebody so transparently guilty, who wrote a psalm on the very event in question (see Psalm 51)?The trial would seem to insinuate that the preponderance thinks David was in the right, or if he wasn't, that he refused to admit guilt. But that isn't the case. We all know the story of David, Uriah, and Bathsheba. David committed a series of egregious sins. There's no doubt about that.To me, having a mock trial seems like overkill. The fact that he was guilty was never an issue. I don't anyone who contests that fact.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

Well, heading back towards David, the story itself is one that contains impossibilities and also gives us a glimpse into what likely was normal political life then as well as right down to today.One example is David's purge of Saul's heirs. They would have been a danger to his rule, and in particular to the idea of creating a dynasty. The obvious solution is to kill them all, and he does. The one problem with the story, and one indication that it is actually several tales merged into one, is that after he kills them all off, he later finds yet one more. Further, it appears from the story that he knew about this spare all along.True to form, the course he selects is to tell the guy that all is forgiven and so persuades the sucker to "Come on Down."Big mistake.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

To remind people of the story.To me this mock trial appears as purely didactic exercise.Brian.

I didn't say you were. Who was also a man, and realized what he did was wrong, no big deal really, and not a reason to count the bible out as inaccurate. The bible claims there was only one person sin free. No.Big job, big mistakes. Don't argue the person again, please....
It invalidates anything you say when you do that. Does that make you better than King David, or more advanced?
Does this mean that God doesn't exist?
Who knows what kind of things King David had to turn away from as king. He was just a man, just like you and I.

Who's shrugging?and who's a fundie?