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Author Topic:   Is creationism science?
iceage 
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Message 29 of 114 (371165)
12-20-2006 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by 4Pillars
12-20-2006 12:52 PM


Re: Genesis & Science
4Pillars writes:
The 3 basic elements necessary for all physical form are shown... AIR, DUST AND WATER. Everything which is physical is composed of these 3 elements.
Even 3rd century BC Greek philosophers had more insight and were more sophisticated than this. No offense, but this is statement of ignorance but you are in good company with Genesis. To refer to air, dust and water as elements demonstrated muddled thinking. In the case of Genesis they have a good excuse before the advent of science.
4Pillars writes:
The text is correct in showing that the water was not directly created, or spoken into being, because it consists of elements of the Air or Atmosphere. Water is Hydrogen and Oxygen and came from the Atmosphere and is not shown as a separate creation.
Huh? The only thing correct in that statement is that Water is Hydrogen and Oxygen. The atmosphere is predominately Nitrogen with about 20 percent of Oxygen. Hydrogen does not exist in a free form in the atmosphere (except in maybe very tiny traces)
4pillars writes:
This is correct in today's scientific knowledge
Specifically what is correct?
4pillars writes:
IF the Bible were written by Ancient men, Moses would not have known this. He would have written that in the beginning God created the Air, Dust, and Water, but since God Himself is the Author, He correctly shows that the Atmosphere and Ground were created, and the Water was not a separate creation but instead, came from the Atmosphere.
God is clearly not the author of Genesis. If God wrote Genesis he would refer to 112 elements or the number of naturally occurring elements - that might get some attention.
Genesis is a myth, there are dozens or hundreds of similar creation myths nothing about Genesis makes it any more remarkable or insightful than other creation myths.
Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

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iceage 
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Message 31 of 114 (371170)
12-20-2006 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by 4Pillars
12-20-2006 1:53 PM


Re: Genesis & Science
4pillars writes:
1) Science agrees that the 3 basic elements are necessary (Air, Dust & Water) for a physical form. And you disagree with science?
I detect the presence of Loki

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iceage 
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Message 34 of 114 (371196)
12-20-2006 4:14 PM
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12-20-2006 2:21 PM


Re: Genesis and the Big Bang
And the stars of heaven shall fall
Say there 4pillars do think that statement shows cosmological insight.
And Buzsaw was concerned that Confidence was making Creationist a disservice, you on the other hand are making Confidence look good.

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