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Has there been life for 1/4 of the age of the Universe?

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ringo
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Message 105 of 114 (371199)
12-20-2006 4:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 104 by Fosdick
12-20-2006 4:08 PM

Re: And the principles are...?
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genes don’t have thermodynamic principles because they are merely digital information.
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Huh? Genes are "stored" on DNA molecules, are they not? Arrangements of atoms in DNA molecules, are they not? How do they not "have" thermodynamic principles?
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12-20-2006 7:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 106 by Fosdick
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Re: And the principles are...?
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I am troubled over how a language arises on thermodynamic principles.
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Yeah, yeah, we've been over it and over it and over it. You have yet to show that there is a language that is necessary to prescribe the process. Several times now, you have failed to respond to that issue, only to bring it up again a few posts later.
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If genes communicated their information on a purely stereochemical basis I'd be tight with your POV. The fact is they don't.
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If that is a "fact", you should be able to demonstrate it, explain it, provide references for it... something more than just repeatedly asserting it.
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Until you can establish that "fact" as a fact, I'm not inclined to waste any more effort.
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12-21-2006 4:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 108 by Fosdick
12-21-2006 12:51 PM

Re: And the principles are...?
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J. D. Watson's Molecular Biology of the Gene, for straters, is loaded with the FACTS you choose to ignor.
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I don't "choose to ignore" any facts. You have not presented any facts for me to ignore. You keep asserting that there are facts, but when I ask you what they are, you go off on a tangent. Then, a few posts later, you're asserting again that there are facts.
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It's time to put up or (**** **). Present your facts.
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