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fallacycop
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Message 60 of 114 (371793)
12-23-2006 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by 4Pillars
12-21-2006 11:54 AM


Re: Science by Definition is Philosophical
Sorry, but unless science can create a time machine that will allow us to observe events in the past like the beginning of the universe
As pointed out to you by Dr.A a time machine is not needed in order for science to study the past. forensic scientists, for instance, do that all the time. The interesting thing is that, when it comes to Astronomy and Cosmology, the time machine you ask about actually exist. When looking at far away objects in space we are actually looking into the past (given that the speed of light is finite).
That allows us to see deep into the origin of the Universe. You might want to google "WMAP microwave background radiation". Unfortunately, it is not possible to look all the way back to the big bang bacause once upon a time the universe was opaque and no light from before that time can reach us. But still, all that can be seen is consistent with the BB theory.

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fallacycop
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Message 99 of 114 (393843)
04-07-2007 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by b b
04-07-2007 3:05 AM


To every knew idea to a scientist God says duuuhhh.
You may be right, if it turns out there is a god.
But even if there is a god, you (or any other creationist) do not hold exclusive rights over the word of god on earth. You (or any other creationist) have not given us any reason to believe that what you say and think is any closer to the true nature of god then anybody else (off course you may think you are, but that is assuming too much -- an act of hubris)
Given that, we are left with comparing your claims with the evidence (obtained through experiments directly from the world itself -- the only incontestable source of knowlege of god`s nature we have access to -- god`s creation). Once your claims have failed this most important test, to hold on to preconceived beliefs in the face of evidence would be insane and ungodly.
That`s why creationism is not only bad science. It`s also bad theology.
Edited by fallacycop, : typos

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