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Neutralmind
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Message 1 of 20 (372523)
12-28-2006 9:34 AM


Don't you all just love the sport? I could watch it all day long no matter what countries or clubs are playing against each other ( of course I prefer watching good clubs and countries playing ). Most of my friends are soccer fanatics too. It's just so kewl
If you don't love it, why?
And... What is the general opinion about soccer in the states? Is it considered a "girls' sport" like I many times keep hearing? Is it given value like football or ice hockey?

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Message 3 of 20 (372544)
12-28-2006 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Neutralmind
12-28-2006 9:34 AM


If you don't love it, why?
Its boring. Lots of passing. not a lot of shooting, low scores and whimpy, whiny players.
What is the general opinion about soccer in the states?
Its ghey.
Is it considered a "girls' sport" like I many times keep hearing?
yup
Is it given value like football or ice hockey?
I'd give it value close to hockey, but I think hockey sucks too . I'm a footbal fan, neither soccer nor hockey come close to the value of fotball, IM(NS)HO.

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Neutralmind
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Message 4 of 20 (372595)
12-28-2006 2:38 PM
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12-28-2006 11:33 AM


Catholic Scientist
Its boring. Lots of passing. not a lot of shooting, low scores and whimpy, whiny players.
But it's maybe the most skilled teambased game there is. In ice hockey people break the rules all the time and go unpunished most of the time. In soccer if you act like a jerk it's red card and you're out. That's one of the main reasons I love it.
Yes, there's a lot of passing but there are also so many sick moves in every game and unexpected stuff happening like someone scoring a free kick, and that's what keeps the game interesting.
Also, it's such a teambased game, but an inspiration even from a single player can turn the game a different way. That's what I find intriguing.
What do you mean there's little shooting? Compared to for example your favorite game football (which btw is a very misleading name) how is there little shooting? In soccer they use every good opportunity to shoot.
I find it very boring to watch games where there are so many "scores" that you get tired of them, like basketball.
Also, how is football not boring? The game breaks up every 5 seconds. I don't get how anyone can enjoy that.

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Zawi
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Message 5 of 20 (372600)
12-28-2006 3:18 PM
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12-28-2006 11:33 AM


quote:
Lots of passing
This is a good thing. I marvel at the long passing ability of players such as Xabi Alonso and Frank Lampard, who from 70 yards away can lob the ball to any position on the pitch within an inch of their desire. And it's not just long passing; what about the cheeky short passes that can catch an entire defence off guard?
quote:
low scores
This only serves to give the spectators an even bigger buzz when a goal is scored. I'm a big fan of basketball, but while watching a typical games, my emotions tend to be at a plateau. But while watching football, I can be at one minute mesmerised, the next ecstatic and the next in despair.
Football does cater for those who want to see lots of action, but the action is not going to be non-stop, and I'm glad it's this way. To truly appreciate a game of football requires knowledge of the game, tactical awareness, and a good attention span.
There are some Budweiser adverts on British television at the moment that hypothesise what football would be like if the (stereo) typical American sports-fan had their way: higher scores would be encouraged by creating humongous goalmouths, and ties would be broken with manic multi-ball rounds, etc. The advert eventually concedes that the sport is actually better off staying as it is, and concludes with the line “you do the football, we’ll do the beer.”

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 6 of 20 (372606)
12-28-2006 3:43 PM
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12-28-2006 3:18 PM


There are some Budweiser adverts on British television at the moment that hypothesise what football would be like if the (stereo) typical American sports-fan had their way: higher scores would be encouraged by creating humongous goalmouths, and ties would be broken with manic multi-ball rounds, etc.
lol
I'd be all for that. That actually sounds entertaining
Bud has some great commercials, don't they?
But yeah, I can see why you like soccer, it just doesn't do it for me. I'm just not feeling it.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 7 of 20 (372608)
12-28-2006 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Neutralmind
12-28-2006 2:38 PM


Yes, there's a lot of passing but there are also so many sick moves in every game
The sick moves look like flamboyantly dancing around the ball. I don't find watching it entertaining.
But it's maybe the most skilled teambased game there is.
It could be.
Football is more complicated and in-debth than soccer.
In soccer if you act like a jerk it's red card and you're out.
Or if the opposing player convinces the ref you were acting like a jerk
I find it very boring to watch games where there are so many "scores" that you get tired of them, like basketball.
Hmmm, I like basketball.
What do you mean there's little shooting? Compared to for example your favorite game football (which btw is a very misleading name) how is there little shooting? In soccer they use every good opportunity to shoot.
It just looks like most of the game is non-shooting strategy to get the ball in a position to have a good opportunity to shoot. I'd prefer accuracy by volume as opposed to waiting for the perfect opportunity. Of course, that'd probably take alot of the skill out of it

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truthlover
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Message 8 of 20 (372629)
12-28-2006 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Neutralmind
12-28-2006 9:34 AM


I LOVE soccer. I have three teenage boys who play, too.
I hardly ever watch it, because I don't have a TV. I do make sure we find a way to tape World Cup games, at least some, and I have a couple videos I bought that we watch occasionally. Mostly, though, we love playing.
I live in a village--about 250 people on 100 acres of land in West TN--with about 100 kids in it. That means on weekends I get to get out there with the teenagers, and a couple other adults, and mix it up for two plus hours. Total blast, and since I play halfback mostly and I'm 45, it's just a given that I'll be limping around the office on Monday, groaning whenever I sit down or stand up.

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Brian
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Message 9 of 20 (372697)
12-29-2006 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by New Cat's Eye
12-28-2006 11:33 AM


I'm a footbal fan,
Isn't American football just a gay version of rugby?
What is it with all the padding anyway and the helmet, what is that for, is it to stop their hair getting messed up?
Brian.

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Message 10 of 20 (372704)
12-29-2006 5:51 AM


And... What is the general opinion about soccer in the states? Is it considered a "girls' sport" like I many times keep hearing? Is it given value like football or ice hockey?
I actually enjoy foosball(table soccer), the rollover shot, the European pin shots, the angle pin shots, passing from the 5 man and the slap shots like in the video from the 3 man.
The video to the foosball player is like golfers like Tiger Woods tapping the golf ball behind their back and then hitting hitting it 150 yards. Table soccer (foosball) the ultimate shot is perhaps the drop shot from the goalie over the rods to score. Shooting the ball over the rods is not a real shot because one could tap it from the air by the goalie but its quite impressive non the less.
Hope you all enjoy the video of the drop shot, the arial shots, from one kind of soccer player to another, enjoy.
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Table football (also called foosball) is a table-top game based on football (soccer). The origins of the game are unclear, but most historians agree that the first tables probably appeared in France or Germany in the 1880s-1890s.
Table football - Wikipedia
http://gprime.net/video.php/wickedfoosballshot
http://www.maniacworld.com/amazing-foosball-skills.html

  
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Message 11 of 20 (372713)
12-29-2006 7:34 AM
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12-28-2006 9:34 AM


Don't watch the sport, as I find sport watching boring. But I do like to play it above all other sports! Best yet, I'm better at it than other sports
Anyone who hates soccer can come kiss my ass!

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Larni
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Message 12 of 20 (372720)
12-29-2006 8:24 AM
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12-29-2006 3:06 AM


Thats always been my take on American Football.
A line of fat blokes in camp outfits and one or two runners who do all the catching.
Stop, start, stop, start, start, stop, start, start, stop, start, start, stop, start, etc.
And they can have a breather for more pies at the drop of a hat.

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Brian
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Message 13 of 20 (372765)
12-29-2006 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Neutralmind
12-28-2006 9:34 AM


I have been a supporter of Falkirk since I was seven.
I used to go to nearly all the games, but now I just go to all the home games and only a few away.
We were promoted to the premier league last year, we finished 10th of 12, so we stayed up and are looking to consolidate our position this year.
We look fairly safe, and have had not too bad a season so far. We put Celtic out the League Cup and are now in the semi final of that, and we defeated Rangers in the league, so we have been progressing.
Brian.

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BMG
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Message 14 of 20 (372840)
12-29-2006 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Larni
12-29-2006 8:24 AM


That's always been my take on American Football.
A line of fat blokes in camp outfits and one or two runners who do all the catching.
Stop, start, stop, start,...
And they can have a breather for more pies at the drop of a hat.
Interesting take, Larni, but I must emphatically disagree. I love soccer, as the topic asks, but seeing this post I felt compelled to respond.
Football, especially O and D linemen, although rather large and formidable looking, are asked to do so much more than any other players on the field. They, the D-line, are required on each and every down to either out-manuever, out-hustle, or simply overpower the lineman in front of them on each and every play.
The O-line is required to stop some of the most fast and powerful people in the nation, on each and every down.
The stop, start, stop, start, aspect of the game gives those fans more knowledgable of the game to shoot the shit with one another over the previous play, and/or to tend to their brew.
Lastly, those teams that rely on "one or two runners who do all the catching" are usually not quality teams. The great thing about football is the players must fill their specific niche to the best of their ability. It's a mass of individual organisms that strive to act as one. The teams that generally get the most out of their players at each position and play, act, respond, move as one unit under the guidance of an intelligent, cunning, and sometimes whimsical coaching staff are those that reach the superbowl.
Some teams have great individual players, brimming over with talent and finesse, strength, etc. but it's those teams that play as one unit, force, that generally succeed.
Sorry for the tirade, but it's been a while since I posted anything.
PS- From the other side of the Atlantic, have a good New Year.

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Neutralmind
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From: Finland
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Message 15 of 20 (372967)
12-30-2006 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by New Cat's Eye
12-28-2006 3:49 PM


Catholic Scientist
Football is more complicated and in-debth than soccer.
I just can't see how this is so. In soccer you have to be alert at all times, a full 90 minutes and if you make a mistake it just might cost the game. When in football the time you must be fully concentrated are just a few seconds and then it's a break. So the time you have to think about strategies and ways of fooling the opposition is a much larger time at soccer 'cause you're playing all the time and have to many times make quick responses to situations.
If you mean it's more complicated in a way like chess, then I still have to disagree. Soccer and football have different tactics (of course) but for both they're still just as important for winning the game.
Just as a side note I say soccer is a much more teambased game than football.
edit: Oh yeah, I hope Finland makes it to the next european cup. We're on top of our qualifying league right now!!! It would be a dream come true. Oh pleasepleasepleaseplease...
Edited by Neutralmind, : No reason given.

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