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Author Topic:   IFOlogy: Solving the UFO-Alien mystery
Origen
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Message 1 of 50 (372871)
12-29-2006 10:16 PM


From Something Came Everything is the title of a book I'm writing which will not be done for a while. However, Chapter one is done and I'd like to offer my research here on this forum because I'm fully convinced that the conclusions provided in this IFO-superposition solve the world and end the evolution hoax once and for all. I know that there are many of you who fear evolution theory and feel you cannot place your faith in God or believe the words of the Bible because of something Dawkins said. The Bible is Holy and this can be demonstrated by examining what few valid UFO-sightings there are, combined with ancient art which depicts what we call flying saucers. These ancient relics antedate Darwin and H.G.Wells so there are no tampering accusations needed. The Bible solves this mystery so well and in such modern descriptions that evolution theory should logically surrender their view and admit that evolution contains more ad hoc that any other assumption made in the last century.
This is not a UFOlogy class report. This is a new research paper with a fresh approach to analysis. What I did is discover what the ancient Jews and Christians already knew and we lost because of the evolution confusion.

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Origen
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Message 2 of 50 (372931)
12-30-2006 3:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Origen
12-29-2006 10:16 PM


Extremely Important information!!
Website Administrator,
This topic is more of a blog style of topic (since I cannot post it on this forum), but the information contained in this research should not be oppressed by monopolative thinking. This is the truth of our world and origin thereof, and to refuse this information is to scientifically prove that atheism is a form of imperial fascism which has its own plan of systematic extermination.
I was under the impression that this would be a truth forum and not some forum like all those other who protect lies with priori commitments to evolutionary presuppositions. Am I wrong here? Or have I nailed this forum with the bias it represents?

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Message 3 of 50 (372934)
12-30-2006 3:51 AM


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Message 4 of 50 (372936)
12-30-2006 4:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Origen
12-29-2006 10:16 PM


Origen writes:
From Something Came Everything is the title of a book I'm writing which will not be done for a while. However, Chapter one is done and I'd like to offer my research here on this forum because I'm fully convinced that the conclusions provided in this IFO-superposition solve the world and end the evolution hoax once and for all.
Thats quite an assertion! Let me begin by asking you what you have against science? Is Dawkins the antichrist?
Origen writes:
The Bible is Holy and this can be demonstrated by examining what few valid UFO-sightings there are, combined with ancient art which depicts what we call flying saucers. These ancient relics antedate Darwin and H.G.Wells so there are no tampering accusations needed. The Bible solves this mystery so well and in such modern descriptions that evolution theory should logically surrender their view and admit that evolution contains more ad hoc that any other assumption made in the last century.
Do you expect us to burn all of our books and simply fall back on belief in the Bible? It seems that it is you who fear education and empirical progress that many scholars spend a lot of time doing.
There are theories that I have read which state that U.F.O.'s are demonic manifestations. This certainly may or may not be true, but even if it were true, why in the world should evolutionists stop being evolutionists?? You seem to have a problem with science. Tell us why.
Origen writes:
This is a new research paper with a fresh approach to analysis. What I did is discover what the ancient Jews and Christians already knew and we lost because of the evolution confusion.
Is this all your original thoughts and research or are you reading the books and conclusions of others? Show us some of the sources from where you are getting your theories and conclusions.

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Message 5 of 50 (372937)
12-30-2006 4:29 AM


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Dr Adequate
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Message 6 of 50 (372946)
12-30-2006 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Origen
12-30-2006 3:38 AM


Re: Extremely Important information!!
You say you can't post your "extremely important information!!" here.
I don't see why not; but if you can't post it, or link to it, then how are we meant to discuss it?

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Brian
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Message 7 of 50 (372947)
12-30-2006 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Origen
12-29-2006 10:16 PM


Yikes it's Icke!
You are not David Icke are you?
Brian

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Coragyps
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Message 8 of 50 (372961)
12-30-2006 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Origen
12-30-2006 3:38 AM


Re: Extremely Important information!!
atheism is a form of imperial fascism which has its own plan of systematic extermination.
He's found us out! Plan D, with steps 6b and 7 removed, starting 22:00 UTC today. Do not fail us, fellow Evil Atheist Conspiracy members! The future of legal kitten barbeques depends on us!

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Neutralmind
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Message 9 of 50 (372963)
12-30-2006 9:26 AM


C'mon give him a chance to answer. Stop the bashing for a while.
Origen
I'm fully convinced that the conclusions provided in this IFO-superposition solve the world and end the evolution hoax once and for all
Don't you think that's a little over the top though? At least, in all your wisdom could you post a little extract from your book here?

Taz
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Message 10 of 50 (372992)
12-30-2006 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Origen
12-30-2006 3:38 AM


Re: Extremely Important information!!
First of all, I'm very surprised to see your posts promoted at all.
But to be fair, could you please give us a little more hint as to what the hell you are talking about?

George Absolutely Stupid Bush the Younger

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Dr Adequate
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Message 11 of 50 (373150)
12-31-2006 2:18 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Taz
12-30-2006 12:03 PM


Re: Extremely Important information!!
But to be fair, could you please give us a little more hint as to what the hell you are talking about?
That's my question, too.
This man claims to have "extremely important information!!" proving that the Bible is true.
And yet he won't tell us what it is.
I'd tell people if I knew that.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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AnswersInGenitals
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Message 12 of 50 (373199)
12-31-2006 2:35 PM


Full Moon?
Its been overcast in my area so I haven't been able to check if its a full moon. Is it just me, or have others noted a surge in nutcase posts on the forum lately? Maybe all those power outages in the midwest have caused the automatic gates at the asylums to fling open (but then, how are they powering their computers? Schizos with batteries?) Of course, some might include my posts in this category.

Origen
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Message 13 of 50 (373255)
12-31-2006 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Phat
12-30-2006 4:28 AM


Phat,
First of all, I'm having a hard time understanding the quote system on this forum. I'm not really that good with computers and this forum is very different then others.
Secondly, Richard Dawkins is 'an' antichrist, but is not 'The' AntiChrist. Outside his hollow shell of philosophical allegations against the Bible, he has never contributed anything to science. He is a philosopher...not a scientist. In fact, Darwin was not a scientist. Darwin was not trained in biology or anthropology. He has a MA in Theology, which he floated through without understanding simple Biblical concepts.
Third, Science to me is a 400-year tradition. It opposes the 150-year rebellion of undisciplined research from evolutionists (see Newton's "Opticks," last page).
Fourth, Everybody knows that if it were scientifically and historically proven that either evolution or Creation was right, the other would be eliminated. If Creation is better supported by evidence, evolutionists would be out of a job. We would not burn their literature!! If evolution was proven, the Bible and all literature conneted would be burned and there would be another Holocaust. And yes, the Holocaust did happen (refuting Islamic and atheistic propaganda).
What we have is what information is provided. I did this research on my own. When I was done I have my church Pastor and his wife (both educated in Seminary) read my work. I was worried that they would take me aside and tell me that I've made a mistake, but they didn't. They told me that my work is confirmation of what is taught in Seminary Graduate School are were impressed because I am not educated. I am self-educated. The reason being is because when I was finally interested in becoming educated I saw that education contradicts and oppresses truth that disagrees with priori commitments of the Institution. This bothered me deeply and so I just home schooled myself in Theology, Science, History, and other academical fields related to the study of origins. Thats why I use the name Origen as my login. I study origins. And I do this useing proper method and do it honestly.
UFO is a very misleading term. It identified that there is something there but doesn't tell us what this something is. I was never a big UFO believer, but when I saw some extremely believable NASA footage I began to become interested in researching this mystery. I had no idea that it would become the greatest discovery of my Creation research! My paper provides several Biblical quotations and examines them from a modern perspective, while also leaving the original ancient interpretation in tact! UFOs are many things. They're living for one. They are angels, both holy and unholy. Some of them are spirit, some of them are flesh-like. My book actually reads more like a jounal then an actual book. It was a hard study and I had a hard time just formating chapter one. The other chapters are much easiler to format because it's all science, history and prophecy (though still unfinished).
I'm sorry I ask this forum to write me for the work, but it's the only way I can release it on the Internet. You can write me and I'll send it for a $75.00 send fee --just kidding (hehehe!!!)--it's free!
I am very convinced that this reseach that I call IFOlogy thoroughy discredits evolution as the origin of man. I deeply encourage you to read this first chapter. I'm offering it because I feel it's that imortant. Money means little in matters of absolute truth.

Everything was nothing before there was something.
Everything is something even if its nothing at all.
For nothingness came from Something, and that
Something has always been there.
Without an Infinite Designer, nothing,
could not have ever been.
For even Nothing is Something;
And from Something...came everything.
~ Jason Fessenden

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Origen
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Message 14 of 50 (373258)
12-31-2006 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Dr Adequate
12-30-2006 7:17 AM


Re: Extremely Important information!!
DR.Adequate,
IF you can post my paper and preserve all the Italics/Bold/Underline and overall format, you can e-mail me and I give YOU permission to post it for me. That IF you can preserve the formate. I'm not sure that can be done on any forum because of the way forums format things. So if you're truly interested you can post it.

Everything was nothing before there was something.
Everything is something even if its nothing at all.
For nothingness came from Something, and that
Something has always been there.
Without an Infinite Designer, nothing,
could not have ever been.
For even Nothing is Something;
And from Something...came everything.
~ Jason Fessenden

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Origen
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Joined: 12-29-2006


Message 15 of 50 (373264)
12-31-2006 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Brian
12-30-2006 7:36 AM


Re: Yikes it's Icke!
Brian,
I am the farthest thing from David Icke and other polytheists. Monotheism stays intact in my work because the Law of Indenity demands that the original view does not change or mix with opposing view. I do not mix oil and milk like those many Dubiologists who have written on the topic of UFOlogy in the past. For starters, I do not believe in evolution...they did/do. This view is IFOlogy and comes from the original Biblical view that comes from the Bible. What I did is accurately interpretate the Biblical descriptions with modern science without staying away from Biblical teaching.

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