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Message 11 of 32 (373436)
01-01-2007 1:53 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Lysimachus
12-29-2006 9:48 PM

Biblical Doom and Gloom - Failed prophecies

Lysimachus writes:

Do you ever wonder deep down inside if maybe the Bible is really true?

While ecological damage is and will happen and the earth's systems will be perturbed with rising human population - using the bible as some sort of signpost is useless and perhaps dangerous. For example, the Christian right block in the US are apposed to most environmental causes.

The bible reveals nothing beyond the contemporary state of knowledge when it was written. People work overtime to interpret some scripture having some deep understanding of the physical world, but in the end it requires imagination, ability to create new definitions, and ignore context.

Also the many of the doom and gloom prophecies in both the NT and OT clearly did not happen within the time frame that was clearly and literally written.

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Message 17 of 32 (373557)
01-01-2007 10:45 PM

Reply to: Message 13 by Lysimachus
01-01-2007 9:58 PM

Failed doom

A long procession of "end-times" prophets--starting with Jesus--have predicted the immiment end. They were all wrong. When someone gets it right, that person likely will be a scientist with good data, not a prophet.

Lysimachus writes:

Oh really? Last time I read, they were all right. And their prophecies apply more to our day than they did their own. I'm nobody's fool. You simply are reading their prophecies wrong.

By reading prophecies wrong it is presumed you mean literally

Let's pick a prophecy concerning the environment.

Isaiah 19:5-7 writes:

And the waters of the Nile will be dried up, and the river will be parched and dry; and its canal will become foul, and the branches of Egypt's Nile will diminish and dry up, reeds and rushes will rot away. There will be bare places by the Nile, on the brink of the Nile, and all that is sown by the Nile will dry up, be driven away, and be no more.

Did not happen! If you try to frame this environmental doom prophecy in terms of today, I invite you to reread the whole chapter as it clear that the context was for the then contemporary Egypt.

Lysimachus writes:

Well those Christians certainly arn't me.

You stand a lonely watch. However, I congratulate you as it is a logical position. If one believes that God created earth you would think that God would want his subjects to care for his creation, in the same way one would take care of a car borrowed from a friend.

Present-day Christian evangelicals view the earth more like a rental car.

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Message 21 of 32 (373621)
01-02-2007 6:58 AM

Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
01-01-2007 10:09 PM

Prophecy right on.....

iceage writes:

I know Pat Robertson got caught up in the storm frenzy thing last year and came out swinging with in own prophecy which he failed miserably.

Pat Robertson at the beginning of last year predicted, based on a conversion with god, that there will be numerous storm strikes on the East Coast and a possible tsunami on the West Coast. Another doom and gloomer that should be ashamed and slink from the public stage. But no.... I predict that Pat Robertson will predict something yet again and his faithful will overlook failures.

Is it bad form to reply to your own post?

Just hours after writing this I find this story.

Error

Pat Robertson writes:

I have a relatively good track record," he said. "Sometimes I miss."

Wow! What does one batting average have to be to considered a prophet or a false prophet?

Check out Robertson batting average and he couldn't make the little leagues.

Pat Robertson writes:

Even though the U.S. was not hit with a tsunami, Robertson on Tuesday cited last spring's heavy rains and flooding in New England as partly fulfilling the prediction.

People actually send this guy money? Send it to me please, hey I am batting 1.0 in 2007.

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