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Author Topic:   Ancient ice shelf breaks free in Arctic - Signs of the end?
jar
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Message 6 of 32 (373380)
01-01-2007 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lysimachus
12-29-2006 9:48 PM


First, this is more OLD news.
This particular event happened over a year ago, back in 2005. It is not really that a significant an event and similar to what we have seen in Antarctica for many decades.
A few facts.
The section that broke free is not that old, the ice being around 3000 years old.
The section that broke free drifted a ways and then refroze into the ice pack during winter.
The issue of Global Warming is important and so far no one seems to be doing much to ameliorate any negative impacts it will bring. They seem to spend far more time talking about nonsense issues like "Is it a sign of the End Times" or whether it is caused by man or a natural cycle.

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jar
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Message 10 of 32 (373391)
01-01-2007 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by truthlover
01-01-2007 11:46 AM


Re: First, this is more OLD news.
There are a few encouraging signs.
What does disappoint me is that I do not see much of a public debate about some key issues. For example, the world today is very dependent on large scale agriculture. Large scale agriculture is very dependent on infrastructure, getting sufficient water to the growing region, large areas of arable land in a given area, sufficient machinery to harvest the crops, adequate transportation to move the product from the place grown to the market and the great hidden requirement, the financial infrastructure need to fund future crops.
All of these are dependent on relative stability over a multi-year period.
This is not the thread to examine such issues, but so much depends on a few basics that I would love to see a thread looking just at one or two of the really basic issues in depth.

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jar
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Message 18 of 32 (373558)
01-01-2007 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Lysimachus
01-01-2007 9:58 PM


More than sufficient reason to ignore such prophecies.
jar writes:
The section that broke free is not that old, the ice being around 3000 years old.
to which Lysimachus replied:
quote:
And that's not old? For me, a Young Earth Creationist, that is half the age of the earth.
That alone is more than sufficient reason to ignore any of your prophecies of end times. If you are unable to evaluate the evidence for the age of the earth and the universe there is no reason to suppose you even have a clue of the significance of the Ayles Ice Shelf breaking free.

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jar
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Message 23 of 32 (373664)
01-02-2007 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
01-01-2007 10:09 PM


Apocalyptic Total IN-Signifigance.
Come on Buz. So far you have not been able to support a single example of these alleged prophecies being fulfilled anywhere but in your mind.
There's going to be a whole lot of super significant broken records regarding weather, seismic activity, and celestial phenomena, et al from now on.
Well duh? That is called learning Buz. And so far no one has shown that anything like the changes that have already happened in the past.
Earthquakes and violent storms will increase in intensity and frequency as we already observing.
You tried once to support that nonsense and failed totally. Want to try again?
Crops will fail big time.
Like happened during the Little Ice Age Buz?
For the skeptics, I suggest they consider the corroborating prophecies which are being fulfilled such as the phenomenal return of the Jews to their land to become a nation as prophesied by Jesus and the prophets, the industrial revolution, cultural changes and emergence of world government.
There is a Kingdom of Israel? I hadn't heard that. The Industrial Revolution? Chapter and verse Buz, chapter and verse? Cultural changes? Well duh. Emergence of world government? Where is that Buz. Didn't Bushie get the memo or was it that he couldn't read it?

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jar
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Message 25 of 32 (373841)
01-02-2007 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Buzsaw
01-02-2007 10:04 PM


Re: Apocalyptic Signifigance.
I saw that. Man I hope it gets promoted, talk about a collection of frivolity and nonsense.
That one will be a blast.
I'd say Fresh Meat if there was anything in it that hadn't been refuted a thousand times already.
To bad it is just more absolute hogwash.

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jar
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Message 27 of 32 (373849)
01-02-2007 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
01-02-2007 10:27 PM


Re: Apocalyptic Signifigance.
Like I said, soundly refute and I'll respond.
Nah, I expect the usual material from you. You will not respond to refutations just as in the past.
The example of your first so called prophecy ...
Daniel 12:4 (about 530BC) Daniel says: "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."
Item: increase of knowledge and travel.
is so absurd that we cannot expect much. In fact the quote from Daniel actually says the exact opposite of what you allege. It say that Daniels will shut up the words and seal the book, implying that knowledge, instead or increasing, will get locked away.
To jump from "many will run too and fro and knowledge will increase" to a prophecy is about as significant as saying "the sun will arise tomorrow". It is pathetic, insignificant, ridiculous and totally trivial.
To claim that "run to and fro" indicates travel just shows that you have no idea what the phrase "run two and fro" means; that it refers to pointless movement as opposed to purposeful travel.
Kinda typical of the quality of the alleged prophecies you usually present.
If that PNT gets promoted it will be fun. Not very productive but a sure laugh a minute.
It is right in line with this thread, trying to connect an ice shelf breaking free to End Time Prophecy.
What a joke.
Edited by jar, : add r

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