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drummachine Inactive Member |
Is life only about what one can test with scientific instruments? If it is is it reasonable to believe that because I cannot see your mind you dont have a mind? So when when we look at the the world it shows the fingerprints of the creator. Did the four Presidents heads on Mt.Rushmore just appear on that mountain? It takes a mind to create living systems.
What would be the resume for evidence of a creator?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
It takes a mind to create living systems.
Unsupported assertion.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
I listened to that one Drum.
Your preacher says "Micheal Denton, an evolutionist ..." Please prove that M Denton is, in fact, an evolutionist. I suspect you have been lied to. Please elaborate on the "mind" analogy. You do note that I can ask you questions. If you answer in reasonable ways I may infer a mind at work. This is physical evidence for a "mind". Edited to add:Warning! If you use that mp3 file as a source for your arguments you are going to get ripped to little, tiny, quivering pieces. Cut your loses and duck. ToE supplies a way for complex living things to arise without intelligent direction. Therefore your assertion that it "takes a mind to create living systems" isn't true if ToE is true. Prove your assertion. [This message has been edited by NosyNed, 04-12-2003]
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Andya Primanda Inactive Member |
Michael Denton IS an evolutionist now.
True, he did wrote an antievolutionary book (Evolution: A Theory in Crisis), but then he wrote another book, Nature's Destiny, in which he accepted the evidence for evolution and then say that it was a proof of Creation. He's an example of someone who had pondered over the evidence and changed his mind. Unlike some unrepentant creationists. Michael Behe is also an evolutionist
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
quote: Thank you I was a bit harsh on Drum's source. However, it seems to me that it is, at best, very misleading to "forget" that Denton has changed his mind. What do you think Drum?
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drummachine Inactive Member |
That is his choice. I would just ask him one thing.
What value do you believe you are to God?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
quote:That's not the question Drum. The question is: What do you think of your site that it would forget a relevent point like the guy they are quoting wasn't an "evolutionist" when he made the statements.
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drummachine Inactive Member |
NosyNed,
Thats why I said it is his choice. To choose in the beginning were the particles rather than in the beginning God...
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
At the time Denton made that statement he rejected evolution, and so that website is misleading because it implies the statement was made by someone who accepted the theory of evolution.
You're being asked why you're placing any credibility in a site that makes such misleading statements. --Percy
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drummachine Inactive Member |
Maybe that teaching was before Denton became a evolutionist.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Drum writes: Maybe that teaching was before Denton became a evolutionist. I can't figure out what you're trying to say here, you'll have to try again. I don't know what it is about this simple point that you're missing, so let me spell it out in more detail:
Clear enough? And the question being posed to you is what do you think of a website that would purposefully make such a misleading presentation of information? --Percy
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Actually when you look at what is on other sites this little oversight is comparitively minor. There are lots of worse ones. And this probably belongs in Review of Creationist Web sites anyhow.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5900 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
To further clarify your point #2:
Denton later changes his mind and though still a Creationist decides that he accepts evolution, and writes a book on evolution called "Nature's Destiny" almost ten years after "Theory in Crisis" refuting all of his original work. I know I've quoted Denton on this board before, but for reference for those who haven't seen it, I again present my absolute favorite ex-creationist quote, from "Nature's Destiny": quote:Denton has not only gone from rejecting the ToE outright, but gone on to accepting the ToE in toto AND accepting abiogenesis to boot! Hope this clarifies Drum's question concerning Denton. [This message has been edited by Quetzal, 04-22-2003]
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Newborn Inactive Member |
God is a progressive person, dont you know that.
He didnt make everything in the same time.
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Newborn Inactive Member |
sorry to reply twice.Was a mistake
[This message has been edited by Newborn, 07-15-2003]
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