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The Gory Details of 'Miracles'

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Message 8 of 123 (373587)
01-01-2007 11:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by anastasia
01-01-2007 8:43 PM

St Cherbel Maklouf is probably not that unusual. Being buried in mud could well produce a anaerobic environment.
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St Zita is a whole different story. I am not familiar with anything supernatural about her body or preservation. Her grave was discovered a couple hundred years after her death and the grave was intact as well as seeming undisturbed.
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Message 24 of 123 (373816)
01-02-2007 8:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 23 by ramoss
01-02-2007 8:07 PM

Re: Miracle or whopper
Hopefully not in my Whopper. Switching immediately to Wendy's from now on.
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Message 33 of 123 (373989)
01-03-2007 12:05 PM 		Reply to: Message 32 by anastasia
01-03-2007 11:57 AM

Defy Science?
I am only asking about bodies which do exist and have been examined, and in some cases defy science, not to the extent that such preservations do not occur, but to why it occurred in these situations.
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Before you can make such an assertion you need to present an example where the alleged incident has been examined in detail in a real scientific manner. So far I have seen NO such examples presented.
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Or ...
better yet, take it to James Randi. He has a Million Dollar Challenge sitting there for anyone who can present such a critter.
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Message 67 of 123 (374605)
01-04-2007 11:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 65 by Rob
01-04-2007 11:08 PM

Re: The Answer's in Anastasia
If it could, then Jesus didn't need to die.
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Jesus was born. Therefore He would die.
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That was never in doubt.
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Any man born will die.
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Message 69 of 123 (374611)
01-05-2007 12:03 AM 		Reply to: Message 68 by Rob
01-04-2007 11:59 PM

Re: The Answer's in Anastasia
But you said:
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No, not any man. Only a sinner.
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Jesus died. Jesus was a sinner.
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Getting way too far off topic but start a thread on it.
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01-05-2007 12:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 70 by Rob
01-05-2007 12:19 AM

Off Topic so one response only
More pointless irrelevant nonsense rob. Also misrepresenting what I said.
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Start a thread on it if you wish, but so far you are simply misrepresenting what I posted, as usual.
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jar said any man born will die.
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scottness said "No, not any man. Only a sinner."
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jar replied "Jesus died. Jesus was a sinner."
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Then scottness, showing his inability to read and follow a conversation posted...
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What charges do you bring against Him?
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It was not me who indicted Jesus scottness but you.
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Message 121 of 123 (375115)
01-07-2007 1:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 115 by Phat
01-07-2007 12:28 AM

Re: Topic
Yes, and so I suggest that we do just that and have you stop this inane preaching.
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Inane is a good word for it, lacking sense, significance, or ideas; silly, empty and void.
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The topic is on Miracles, and whether any documented miracles can be verified not on irrelevant sermonizing.
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One problem is that most folk claiming miracles are also unwilling to submit the objects or events to scientific examination.
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So is there much that can be determined other than some folk believe that some miracles happened but since they have not been subjected to scientific rigor miracles can never be more than simply beliefs?
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